Re: Stupid Qestion

Paul Lussier wrote: > And while you're at it, see what happens when you boot without a /etc/passwd > (Does the phrase "I don't know who you are!" mean anything? :) Tecnically, you can do this. the /etc/passwd file is backed up to /etc/passwd- just as the /etc/shadow is backed up to /etc/shadow-.

Re: Help me push Linux

Paul Lussier wrote: > >Now, I for one think that "reloading my OS and learning something new" is a > >pleasure. Heck, if you're running Windows you should be good at reloading the > >OS ;-) I have to both agree and disagree with this. I myself love blowing away a system and trying something new

Re: Stupid Qestion

In a message dated: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 22:44:18 EDT "Kenneth E. Lussier" said: >Does anyone know if /etc/lilo.conf has to have any specific permissions, >or can it be set to something like 600? I think that 600 is okay. Actually, I think 400 is okay. It just needs root read permissions afaik.

Stupid Qestion

Does anyone know if /etc/lilo.conf has to have any specific permissions, or can it be set to something like 600? Kenny ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject

Re: Help me push Linux

In a message dated: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 13:59:52 EDT Greg Kettmann said: >> 2. It was internationally developed (only the NSA and american-centrists are >>concerned about this). > >I've never had anyone care about his one way or the other. You aren't trying to sell into a foreign country with a

Re: Our own Rich Payne

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Jeffry Smith wrote: > See: > http://www.olinux.com.br/interviews/27/en/ Why is it that people always post these things while your on vacation? > for an interview with Rich on Alpha & Linux. Also see: > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/10/11/1333228&mode=nested Wow..

Re: Learning Samba

In a message dated: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 14:05:49 EDT "Jerry Feldman" said: >I found that the book, Teach Yourself Samba in 24 Hours by Sams: > >http://www.mcp.com/sams/detail_sams.cfm?item=0672316099 Think what you will about the whole "Teach yourself in X amount of time" concept, and then set it a

Re: PowerMac G4 Cube and Linux

Try: http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ I'm not sure if the cube is part of the PowerPC/ IBM RS/6000 architecture or not though... I just eat Apple's, I don't try and run Linux on 'em :-) At 03:55 PM 10/13/2000 -0400, Brian Boerner wrote: >Has anyone had any luck with Linux on the Apple boxe

PowerMac G4 Cube and Linux

Has anyone had any luck with Linux on the Apple boxes? Has anyone actually seen it running on the G4 cube? I like the features this little box has, not to mention it's quite neat looking. Anyone have any comments on Linux and PPC. -bmb- ***

Re: SUID root CGI programs

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > haystack[112] cat ~/suid_test.c > > This had occured to me, and I'm probably going to go this route, but I Good. Another place I know of to look for more C code doing this is "wrapper.c" of the Majordomo distribution. > just tho

Re: Help me push Linux

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Bruce McCulley wrote: > That compounds the other big problem: support. I mean problem resolution, one > of Bruce Dawson's biggest complaints was "nobody to help learn" which is a > support issue of another kind. I was trying to figure out how to express my > belief that on

RE: Help me push Linux

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Con: Higher chance to cause problems. If the sysadmin is lazy / > inexperienced in setting up accounts, "regular" users (read: ex M$ users) > have the potential to cause serious pain. Of course, if your sysadmin is > Unix/Linux familiar then this s

Re: Help me push Linux

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Bruce Dawson wrote: > But the biggest 2 problems, by far, are: > > 1. I don't have anyone to help me learn it (or: I don't have time to learn >a new OS). > > 2. It means reloading my OS and learning something new. > > Note: The last two are not PHB complaints, but gene

Re: SUID root CGI programs

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Karl J. Runge wrote: > Ignoring any security concerns, this will work as a wrapper for just > about any program: > > haystack[112] cat ~/suid_test.c This had occured to me, and I'm probably going to go this route, but I just thought there must be a way to do this without re

Re: SUID root CGI programs

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Benjamin Scott wrote: > On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Derek Martin wrote: > > I just want it to WORK! :) > > I think it is safe to say that phase has caused more security compromises > then all others problems combined. > > Just an observation. :-) Well, I certainly agree wit

Re: User interfaces (was Re: Help me push Linux)

Niall Kavanagh wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Cole Tuininga wrote: > I've always wondered about the WPS. I've seen a lot of folks laud it as a > fantastic interface, yet relatively little is done to bring it to a linux > desktop. Why is this? Has anyone with WPS experience any horror stories or

RE: Help me push Linux

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > This reminded me of something I meant to ask since it's been a _long_ > time since I've read up on this stuff. Are user-space threads > (under linux) incapable of using more than one processor on a SMP system? Most user-space thread libraries I've seen are implemente

Re: User interfaces (was Re: Help me push Linux)

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Richard Soule wrote: > Niall Kavanagh wrote: > > > > On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Cole Tuininga wrote: > > > I've always wondered about the WPS. I've seen a lot of folks laud it as a > > fantastic interface, yet relatively little is done to bring it to a linux > > desktop. Why is t

mod_gzip for Apache

http://www.remotecommunications.com/apache/mod_gzip/ AFAIK, this is a new release. And here's some benchmarks from Webreference: http://webreference.com/internet/software/servers/http/compression/ Benchmarks the transfer rate, which of course is faster. No benchmark for server performance or de

Re: Learning Samba

Check the SMB-HOWTO on www.linuxdoc.org Especially note the part about how you need to make a change in the registry's of the Win systems that you will be mounting your linux drive(s) on. There are three RPM's you need to install. They are all called samba-*.rpm Whenever you make changes to yo

RE: Learning Samba

O'Reilly has a book called "Using Samba" (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/desc.html) which has been "officially adopted by the Samba team." If you haven't picked up any of their books, you should really take a look at them. Very informative. I checked their website (oreilly.com) and found t

Re: Learning Samba

I found that the book, Teach Yourself Samba in 24 Hours by Sams: http://www.mcp.com/sams/detail_sams.cfm?item=0672316099 I was not able to get printing to work where the LInux system was the print server. I had gone over my smb.conf files several times, compared it with some others, and even wro

Re: Help me push Linux

I know we're all just jumping in on the con side to help flesh out information but I'd like to refute some of these statements. Bruce Dawson wrote: > I believe most PHB's would consider the following disadvantagous: > > 1. It doesn't run MS Windows software (but it sorta does; and some >con

Re: Learning Samba

In a message dated: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 13:49:38 EDT "Sean Goodell" said: >I am new to Linux and would like to setup Samba on a machine running RH = >6.2. Can anyone recommend a good website or book to help me properly = >setup Samba? This machine is not connected to the outside world, but = >some

RE: Help me push Linux

No offense taken, Cole. As I mentioned, I've never even touched a Linux gui yet. This isn't necessarily for some holy reason however. My home box is a 486/33 w/ limited ram & hd space. I keep it gui free mostly to keep performance up. At work we don't use any windowing system either. Even if th

Learning Samba

I am new to Linux and would like to setup Samba on a machine running RH 6.2.  Can anyone recommend a good website or book to help me properly setup Samba?  This machine is not connected to the outside world, but some machines on the network are connected via cable internet access.  What woul

User interfaces (was Re: Help me push Linux)

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Cole Tuininga wrote: > I wanted to point out something here that I find interesting. > > It seems to me that I keep hearing people say things along the lines of > "Make it seem like Win". Is it me or is this a > counterproductive attitude? Why are we making ourselves sou

Re: Help me push Linux

Good points. I was trying to formulate my thoughts, these helped. I think some of them are inter-related also. I'd lump those two biggest complaints (both learning-related) together, and expand the scope a little. As I see it, one of the biggest problems with Linux is that it is not as easy to

Re: Tape backup?

I'm certainly with you there. I think the fact that Sony makes the cleaning carts they say you don't need speaks for itself, neh? Engineers versus marketroids; the eternal struggle. * Benjamin Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001013 13:30]: > On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Neal Connor wrote: > [RE: Sony AIT tape

Re: Help me push Linux

Bruce Dawson wrote: > 2. It was internationally developed (only the NSA and american-centrists are >concerned about this). I happened to read this just moments after reading the program for NISSC, a conference co-sponsored by the NSA. I'm planning to attend it next week in Baltimore, in l

Re: Tape backup?

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Neal Connor wrote: [RE: Sony AIT tape systems and cleaning cartridges] > I'm surprised anyone is having trouble getting cleaning cartridges; > granted, I'm on AIT-1, but all the resellers I'm dealing with have them in > stock most of the time and are happy to ship them to me.

Re: Tape backup?

I've been _really_ happy with it; reliability in my 10-slot library has been excellent for over a year. I'm surprised anyone is having trouble getting cleaning cartridges; granted, I'm on AIT-1, but all the resellers I'm dealing with have them in stock most of the time and are happy to ship them

Re: Help me push Linux

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Con: Potentially higher learning curve for users. You can run a gui that > will make them feel like they're working in Win9x which would help, but if > you use something else then it may take some time to get some people back up > to speed. I can't help out much her

RE: Help me push Linux

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Pro:TRUE multitasking. Virtual Terminals and background jobs are a > godsend, especially in processor-intensive jobs (code compile, database > sorting, etc). This alone is worth the price. ;-) > This reminded me of something I meant to ask

Re: Help me push Linux

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Jeffry Smith wrote: > OK, do you want cons only or pros and cons? > One con is that Linux does not run as efficiently on large machines > (E10K, Q Wildfire) as the native Unix (note, most people won't care, > as they don't run those machines). > > Pro: > Security: You can i

RE: Help me push Linux

Pro:TRUE multitasking. Virtual Terminals and background jobs are a godsend, especially in processor-intensive jobs (code compile, database sorting, etc). This alone is worth the price. ;-) Con: Higher chance to cause problems. If the sysadmin is lazy / inexperienced in setting up account

Re: Help me push Linux

I believe most PHB's would consider the following disadvantagous: 1. It doesn't run MS Windows software (but it sorta does; and some consider not running MS Windows software an advantage). 2. It was internationally developed (only the NSA and american-centrists are concerned about this).

Re: SUID root CGI programs

On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Derek Martin wrote: > > I'm writing web front ends to some admin utilities, which obviously need > to run as root. I was looking at suexec for this, but it apparently > doesn't let you do this. > > Yes, I am well aware of the potential security issues of doing this,

Re: Help me push Linux

OK, do you want cons only or pros and cons? One con is that Linux does not run as efficiently on large machines (E10K, Q Wildfire) as the native Unix (note, most people won't care, as they don't run those machines). Pro: Security: You can independently examine the code, determine and FIX problem

Re: Tape backup?

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Paul Lussier wrote: > After attending the seminar on Enterprise Backup and Recovery yesterday, > with W. Curtis Preston, I'm now very interested in AIT. It certainly seems to have some advantages. Compact form factor, high capacity, that nifty flash ROM chip, and the tape

Re: SUID root CGI programs

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Today, Kevin D. Clark gleaned this insight: > > > > > I hate being protected from myself! > > > > I find Perl's taint checks and other warning mechanisms to be much > > more helpful than harmful. > > I would be inclined to agree

Re: SUID root CGI programs

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Derek Martin wrote: > I just want it to WORK! :) I think it is safe to say that phase has caused more security compromises then all others problems combined. Just an observation. :-) -- Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Net Technologies, Inc. Voic

Help me push Linux

People, I have another chance to advocate Linux. They asked for a "one page list of pros & cons for Linux". The only con I may put in is: "Many managers are still not comfortable with Linux". OK, I should add: "Some applications still not on Linux desktops". What other comments would you all su

Re: Tape backup?

In a message dated: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:12:36 PDT "Karl J. Runge" said: >If you know off the top of your head, what is the rough (i.e. within a >factor of 2) price range for these 40-50GB tape drives? A DLT7000 single drive is somewhere around $4K-$5K. An 8-tape library with a single drive is

Re: SUID root CGI programs

Today, Kevin D. Clark gleaned this insight: > > I hate being protected from myself! > > I find Perl's taint checks and other warning mechanisms to be much > more helpful than harmful. I would be inclined to agree if I knew how to use them to achieve my goal, but at the moment I don't, and as y

Re: nfs woes

In a message dated: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:32:58 EDT Matt Herbert said: >> Try restarting mountd? > >Nope. I'm hesitant to do that because there are about 30 hosts who >have nfs mounts from the server, and the last time I tried to re-start >the nfs processes, I was unable to get the services runnin

Re: Tape backup?

If you know off the top of your head, what is the rough (i.e. within a factor of 2) price range for these 40-50GB tape drives? Thanks, Karl On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a message dated: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:55:28 EDT > Benjamin Scott said: > > >On Thu, 12 O

Re: SUID root CGI programs

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I hate being protected from myself! I find Perl's taint checks and other warning mechanisms to be much more helpful than harmful. Do what you think is best. --kevin -- Kevin D. Clark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | Will hack Perl for Cetacean Networks, Inc.

Re: Tape backup?

In a message dated: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:55:28 EDT Benjamin Scott said: >On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Paul Lussier wrote: >> DLT has the advantage of being able to contain more data per tape than any >> other out there right now. > > I thought 40 GB/tape (native) was the current limit for DLT? AIT cla

Re: SUID root CGI programs

Today, Kevin D. Clark gleaned this insight: > Make the CGI program suid-root. If you're running on a system that > doesn't execute suid *scripts*, make a C wrapper. It's just a simple > matter of programming. There are other problems with that... see below. > > Obviously, if you do this, you

Star Office GPL'd

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-10-13-002-21-NW-DT-SW It's out now, under GPL, LGPL, and Sun's SISSL (dual licensing on all parts: GPL/SISSL for non-libaries, LGPL/SISSL for libraries). Jeffry Smith T

Re: SUID root CGI programs

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Now can someone tell me how I can do what I need WITHOUT letting the > server run as root? Make the CGI program suid-root. If you're running on a system that doesn't execute suid *scripts*, make a C wrapper. It's just a simple matter of programming. Obviously, i

Boston Linux Meeting Wednesday, October 18th, 2000

When:October 18, 2000 7:00 p.m. (6:30PM Q&A) Topic: Kimberlite Cluster Technology Presented by Tim Burke Location: MIT Building 4-370 Tim Burke will give an overview of the current Linux clustering landscape. He will then discuss in more detail the Kimberlite implementation developed and rele