Re: GNOME's future

2002-02-02 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Greg Kettmann wrote: That said, I'm hoping Mono will set it's own open standards, as mentioned in this post, and deny M$ the embrace and extend capability. While Miguel does mention that as a possibility, I suspect Microsoft will ensure their own implementation of .NET is

Re: GNOME's future

2002-02-02 Thread Michael Costolo
On Saturday 02 February 2002 01:45 pm, Greg Kettmann wrote: snip A second point, against Mono and Wine. It's very difficult to win when you're always chasing or lagging. That is if you are adhering exactly to Microsoft then they control things. New somethings, like XP, will come out which

Re: GNOME's future

2002-02-02 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Michael Costolo wrote: I've read so many articles on what linux needs in order to dethrone Microsoft. They all basically say the same thing and it seems that more and more developers are listening, but I don't know why. You have to understand something: In the past 100

Re: GNOME's future

2002-02-02 Thread ccb
All of this being said (.net, mono, etc.) , I've always been amazed that Linux heads aren't rabid supporters of Sun, Java and EJB. It may not be free, but it is open and above board. ccb * To unsubscribe from this list, send

Re: GNOME's future

2002-02-02 Thread Paul Iadonisi
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 01:22:23PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of this being said (.net, mono, etc.) , I've always been amazed that Linux heads aren't rabid supporters of Sun, Java and EJB. It may not be free, but it is open and above board. Ganesh Prasad actually wrote a well

Re: GNOME's future

2002-02-02 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of this being said (.net, mono, etc.) , I've always been amazed that Linux heads aren't rabid supporters of Sun, Java and EJB. It may not be free, but it is open and above board. I don't know about others, but *this* Linux head doesn't trust

Re: GNOME's future

2002-02-02 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Paul Iadonisi wrote: His view was that the only real viable competition the free software world has against .NET was to fully and wholeheartedly embrace J2EE. Here I will echo Michael Costolo: Who says we need to compete against .NET? Computers are not a zero-sum game.

Re: Configuring X

2002-02-02 Thread Derek
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 23:18, Benjamin Scott wrote: On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Michael O'Donnell wrote: I haven't done an X installation in quite a while so I wonder, what's the state-of-the-art? Red Hat's current Xconfigurator will detect known video cards, query the attached monitor for its

Re: Configuring X

2002-02-02 Thread John Abreau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it was time to configure X. In fact, that was part of the reason I chose to leave, since in the past I have found configuring X to be a giant PITA. I haven't done an X installation in quite a while so I wonder, what's the state-of-the-art? Calculating all that

Re: Configuring X

2002-02-02 Thread Michael O'Donnell
After I wrote: I can't believe that somebody hasn't created some tool to ease the pain a bit ...Ed Robbins replied: Version 4.x of XFree86 does a pretty good job of creating a XF86Config file. Run the command XFree86 -configure That will generate a config file which is a great place

Re: Configuring X

2002-02-02 Thread Benjamin Scott
On 2 Feb 2002, Derek wrote: http://wwwinfo.cern.ch/pdp/ose/linux/lsr/pro/RedHat/instimage/usr/X11R6/share/Xconfigurator/MonitorsDB sorry this link name is so long... FYI, that file is present on Red Hat CDs up to 7.0, as: /RedHat/instimage/usr/X11R6/share/Xconfigurator/MonitorsDB

Re: Configuring X

2002-02-02 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Michael O'Donnell wrote: Ed Robbins replied: Version 4.x of XFree86 does a pretty good job of creating a XF86Config file. Run the command XFree86 -configure That will generate a config file which is a great place to start. I say start only because it would generate