Re: RAID Problems

2002-07-04 Thread Rich C
- Original Message - From: "Kurth Bemis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Benjamin Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Greater NH Linux Users' Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 PM Subject: Re: RAID Problems >

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread plussier
In a message dated: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:14:59 EST John Abreau said: >Funny; I had two Netgear 8-port 10/100 switches I'd been running for >years, and they both just suddenly died. One about four or five months >ago, and the other just a couple weeks ago. > >I don't remember exactly when I bough

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread John Abreau
"Rich C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Precisely my point. Although 2 years is a long time for a design flaw to > become evident, that was in fact the reason for the failure. You are not > the only one who has had a Netgear card stop working. That is why I now > use Linksys. While this is an unus

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Michael O'Donnell hath spake thusly: > because I don't see how owning a new (versus > used) RAID controller saves you if it fails. > If you can get a replacement controller under > warranty why can't you get a replacement > con

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread Michael O'Donnell
Used hardware can fail. New hardware can fail. A failure is a failure. I think I saw it said here that if one's data were important enough that a RAID was being considered then the purchase of used equipment should somehow be ruled out, but I must have missed some crucial piece of that argumen

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread Rich C
- Original Message - From: "Bob Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:34 PM Subject: Re: RAID Problems > You would think so, wouldn't you? However, one of my Netgear > FA310TX's that I've be

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread Bob Bell
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 11:26:06PM -0500, Rich Cloutier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *sigh* I fear that this is "vaccuum tube" mentality. Unless an > electronic device has electro-mechanical parts that wear out, or has > been stressed beyond its specifications (unlikely in the average > computer c

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread plussier
In a message dated: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:34:25 EST Benjamin Scott said: > Sure, a used controller from Joe's House of RAID Cards might have been >treated well and work just fine. But it is equally possible that it was >thrown into a cardboard box with 38 other cards and shuffled around between

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread Benjamin Scott
On 27 Mar 2002, at 11:26pm, Rich Cloutier wrote: > ... an electronic device ... either works or it doesn't. That is incorrect. It is quite possible to have solid-state components which are marginal. Such components may have intermittent problems, or may simply fail early. I have certainly se

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread plussier
In a message dated: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:32:15 EST Kurth Bemis said: >At 03:33 PM 3/27/2002 -0500, mike ledoux wrote: > >now with RAID lets say that I have a 3 disk array. one disk blows up on >Sunday morning. What happens to data that it supposed to be written that >disk? I can't imagine th

Debian Woody (Was: Re: RAID Problems)

2002-03-27 Thread Angus D Madden
James R. Van Zandt, Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:10:53PM -0500: > > I ordered a Woody disk last night for $5.95. Only a single disk, but > supposed to be enough to get started, and you can get the rest over > the network. (The full woody distribution apparently will take 8 > CDs!) > If you have a

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-27 Thread Rich Cloutier
> If the used controller you bought from some > guy on eBay fails, or starts acting flakey, it doesn't matter what > RAID level you're running, or how good your disks are, you'll probably > lose data. With controllers available so cheaply new with a warranty, > I can't imagine that the cost savin

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-27 Thread James R. Van Zandt
I ordered a Woody disk last night for $5.95. Only a single disk, but supposed to be enough to get started, and you can get the rest over the network. (The full woody distribution apparently will take 8 CDs!) - Jim Van Zandt

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-27 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, at 12:23pm, Kurth Bemis wrote: > what version of megaraid do you have? We have used everything from the single-channel, 16MB "Express 100" model to the quad-channel, 128MB "Enterprise 1500" model. All have used the same drivers and software; they just have different capabi

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-27 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, at 11:21am, Kurth Bemis wrote: > hrm.maybe I should look at another card. > any suggestions? We have been using the AMI MegaRAID series with good results. Nice feature set, good prices, GPL Linux driver in the mainstream kernel, Linux binary-only management tool from A

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-27 Thread Matthew J. Brodeur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Kurth Bemis wrote: > but if the card is a hardware RAID card then the kernel shouldn't care or > see the individual drives, right? It should see one large volume. > > am i correct in assuming that? In this case, no. The A

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-27 Thread Angus D Madden
Kurth Bemis, Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 11:21:17AM -0500: > hrm.maybe I should look at another card. > > any suggestions? > What distro do you want to use? If you want to use Debian (which I highly recommend), I would go for woody instead of potato. Debian potato is too dated right now. You'

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-27 Thread Angus D Madden
Kurth Bemis, Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 11:14:14AM -0500: > but if the card is a hardware RAID card then the kernel shouldn't care or > see the individual drives, right? It should see one large volume. > > am i correct in assuming that? > No, you will still need the driver support in the kernel.

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-27 Thread Angus D Madden
Kurth Bemis, Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:06:14AM -0500: > I got the configure utility from adaptec's site...found the array and > formatted it with all 0's. Then I figured that debian 22r4 would find it > ok. nope it only finds the 3 drives and asks me which one would I like to > partition and u

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-26 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, at 6:46pm, Kurth Bemis wrote: > I'm at a total loss for how to setup linux before i setup the > array. That is likely because you should be trying to setup the array before you setup Linux. :-) The idea is, you use a controller-specific utility (either booted from flop

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-26 Thread Mark Komarinski
If it's a hardware RAID, you just use the RAID firmware to create logical(?) drives out of the array. Once that's done, RH or distro-of-choice will load in the drivers and let you access each logical drive just like an IDE or SCSI drive - partition, format and away you go. IIRC, there's a limit