I am one of those who occasionally degrades the normally
excellent S/N ratio on this channel by posting OT
commentary, so I do not presume to lecture from a
holier-than-thou position, but simply to remind us all
that the GNHLUG is essentially a captive audience. The Net
is wonderful and offers
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"Philip M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I really don't see what the fuss is all about. Some lawyers passed some laws, some
>law enforcement wonks got their wishlist. Who
> really cares? If you suddenly find your local judge prosecuting y
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> On Tuesday 02 October 2001 22:54, Rich Clouti
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:54:59PM -0400, Rich Cloutier wrote:
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> From: "Thomas M. Albright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:27 PM
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On Tuesday 02 October 2001 22:54, Rich Cloutier wrote:
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> If the web site id that important to the busi
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> > On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 08:52:06PM -0400, Benjamin Scott wrote
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On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 12:40:23PM -0400, Rich C wrote:
> > Secondly because in the vast majority of cases, even when
> > the attacks succeed, the real damage is almost nonexistant.
>
> Oh really? Tell that to the guy across the hall from me who has had to
> rebuild all of his Win2k/IIS servers b
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On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 01:21:30AM -0400, Derek D. Martin wrote:
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> > I am not saying the ill-conceived, reactionary measures under
> > discussion in Congress are justified. I believe they are not. But
> > the fact of the matter is, comparing a network security compromise
> > to a kid throwing
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 08:52:06PM -0400, Benjamin Scott wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Derek D. Martin wrote:
> > ... and the affected site should be able to replace the trashed web
> > server in about 15 minutes, IF they notice it's been trashed, and IF
> > they have a proper disaster recovery pla
Benjamin Scott wrote:
>
> comparing a network security compromise to a kid throwing
> a brick through a window is just not reasonable, either.
Unless you postulate that it's being bunged through from
the *inside*, by someone who doesn't belong there. :-)
Then the analogy works, I think.
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On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Derek D. Martin wrote:
> ... and the affected site should be able to replace the trashed web
> server in about 15 minutes, IF they notice it's been trashed, and IF
> they have a proper disaster recovery plan.
There is no way you are going to recover from a security compromis
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