Speaking of Mandrake, I think I found a broken tool....

2004-01-22 Thread Brian H. Chabot
I think I just found a broken Mandrake tool: drakfont If you use Mandrake, you might want to be careful in using it to install TrueType fonts. I just tried to install a bunch from my collections and... xfs (ergo, X) refused to start after that. I'm currently Not Pleased. For anyone interest

Re: SMTP question. Sendmail, RH 7.3

2004-01-22 Thread Bruce Dawson
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 14:29, Jason wrote: > I have a client in MN who uses qwest as his isp. I host his site and email > and until yesterday at 3 pm he was able to send and receive just fine. His > POP address is domain.com and his smtp address was something.qwest.net. In > his calls to qwest he is

Re: Maybe time for a new distro?

2004-01-22 Thread Bob Bell
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 11:13:58AM -0500, Randy Edwards wrote: In my warped worldview, there are only two distros: Debian and Red Hat. Sure, there are lots of other really slick distros (e.g. Lycoris), but what I'm interested in is software -- usually the software that isn't included in th

Re: Maybe time for a new distro?

2004-01-22 Thread Marc Nozell
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 03:56:05PM -0500, Bill Sconce wrote: > On 22 Jan 2004 09:58:36 -0500 > brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > However, I've been thinking recently of switching to a different distro, > > mostly for "because" reasons and partially to just try other things. > > I've also got

Re: Maybe time for a new distro?

2004-01-22 Thread Bill Mullen
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Jerry Feldman wrote: > Also, SuSE is relatively strong financially being part of Novell. > Mandrake was recently in the French bankruptcy court, [...] FWIW, Mandrake just reported it's first quarter in the black: http://www.newsforge.com/business/04/01/22/1249249.shtml?tid=2

Re: Maybe time for a new distro?

2004-01-22 Thread Bill Mullen
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, brian wrote: Brian, I second Brian's motion; here is another recommendation for Mandrake. :) > Been using Redhat for years (still have my 5.0 installation CD's and > diskette from Redhat (am on 9.0 currently)). As Mandrake is an RPM-based distro, you should feel right at ho

Re: Outlook express smtp auth against linux

2004-01-22 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 15:43, brian wrote: > In my experience, you have to allow login or plain AUTH with lookout. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised they would use login AUTH - the least documented method I found. There's not a standard or an RFC so far as I can tell. 8) Although, I do already

Re: Maybe time for a new distro?

2004-01-22 Thread Bill Sconce
On 22 Jan 2004 09:58:36 -0500 brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, I've been thinking recently of switching to a different distro, > mostly for "because" reasons and partially to just try other things. > I've also got a fair amount of Debian experience, FWIW. I recommend you check into L

Re: Outlook express smtp auth against linux

2004-01-22 Thread brian
In my experience, you have to allow login or plain AUTH with lookout. Most default setups in Sendmail tend to prefer CRAM and/or DIGEST MD5. The SSL thing is completely different. The problem comes down to LookOut sucks and doesn't support any modern secure login mechanisms (lets see a show of h

Re: SMTP question. Sendmail, RH 7.3

2004-01-22 Thread Larry Cook
Hi Jason, I'd like to ask some questions to clarify the situation and make it easier for the experts on this list to help you. My knowledge is limited to getting my RH 8 sendmail configured to send email via my local ISP's SMTP server. It seems there is more and more checking being added to S

RE: SMTP question. Sendmail, RH 7.3

2004-01-22 Thread Travis Roy
> I have a client in MN who uses qwest as his isp. I host his site and email > and until yesterday at 3 pm he was able to send and receive just fine. His > POP address is domain.com and his smtp address was something.qwest.net. In > his calls to qwest he is getting the usual runaround "you can't >

Outlook express smtp auth against linux

2004-01-22 Thread Cole Tuininga
Hi folks - I'm running into a problem that I was hoping somebody might have some ideas on. I'm running a debian server box with exim on it. I've set up exim to require tls smtp authentication if they want to relay. At this point, it works just hunky dory with evolution, but outlook (and outlook

Re: Maybe time for a new distro?

2004-01-22 Thread Jerry Feldman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 22 Jan 2004 09:58:36 -0500 brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Been using Redhat for years (still have my 5.0 installation CD's and > diskette from Redhat (am on 9.0 currently)). > > Some would consider this a character flaw, I know, and don't real

SMTP question. Sendmail, RH 7.3

2004-01-22 Thread Jason
All, I have a client in MN who uses qwest as his isp. I host his site and email and until yesterday at 3 pm he was able to send and receive just fine. His POP address is domain.com and his smtp address was something.qwest.net. In his calls to qwest he is getting the usual runaround "you can't just

Re: Maybe time for a new distro?

2004-01-22 Thread Steven Knight
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 09:58, brian wrote: > Been using Redhat for years (still have my 5.0 installation CD's and > diskette from Redhat (am on 9.0 currently)). > > Some would consider this a character flaw, I know, and don't really > care. > > However, I've been thinking recently of switching to

Re: Maybe time for a new distro?

2004-01-22 Thread Randy Edwards
Some would consider this a character flaw, I know, and Don't worry about it; there are far worse character flaws... :-) However, I've been thinking recently of switching to a different distro, mostly for "because" reasons and partially to just try other things. I've also got a fair amount of D

Re: Maybe time for a new distro?

2004-01-22 Thread Brian H. Chabot
brian wrote: Been using Redhat for years (still have my 5.0 installation CD's and diskette from Redhat (am on 9.0 currently)). [snip] My major wants/needs are: Support for my dual-head ATI card Gnome out-of-the-box (preferred) Some degree of mutli-media support ("stereophonic beeps" are usually

Re: Maybe time for a new distro?

2004-01-22 Thread Bruce Dawson
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 09:58, brian wrote: >... > My major wants/needs are: > Support for my dual-head ATI card Isn't this more dependent on the version of XFree86 than on the distribution? > Gnome out-of-the-box (preferred) > Some degree of mutli-media support ("stereophonic bee

Maybe time for a new distro?

2004-01-22 Thread brian
Been using Redhat for years (still have my 5.0 installation CD's and diskette from Redhat (am on 9.0 currently)). Some would consider this a character flaw, I know, and don't really care. However, I've been thinking recently of switching to a different distro, mostly for "because" reasons and par