RE: [OT]America. The land of the not-so-free (economy)

2005-01-05 Thread Dana S. Tellier
--CUT So, I find that article rather condescending and racist. Just what I need in the morning -- some liberal telling me I need the welfare state solely because of my dermal chromatics. Oh well, that's basically my ongoing peeve with the media and how it categorizes people in general... As far

Re: FC3 and video...

2005-01-05 Thread Greg Rundlett
Fred wrote: I just upgraded from FC2 to FC3. Bad idea. I've had endless problems with getting the ieee1394 and related modules to work, and also I am no longer able to play DVDs through Xine. I am seriously thinking of downgrading back to FC2. I think part of the problem is that much of the code i

Re: Anyone interested in CUPS?

2005-01-05 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jan 5, 2005, at 12:56 AM, Benjamin Scott wrote: CUPS kept trying to "massage" this data and was totally hosing things, even when we set the printer type to "raw" (or whatever it was) in CUPS. Apparently, even when conversion is disabled, some conversion still gets done What a stupid default th

Re: Ubuntu Linux experiences?

2005-01-05 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jan 5, 2005, at 3:29 PM, Travis Roy wrote: People bitch about RPM dependancy/conflict hell, but when you stay with the right distro and the correct version you rarely see it. It's when you start using Mandrake rpms on a Fedora box or something like that when you really start to see problems. H

Re: Ubuntu Linux experiences?

2005-01-05 Thread Jeff Smith
On 05 Jan 2005 10:13:10 -0500, Travis Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Excellent - this is exactly the kind of thing I want to > hear about. Can > > you be more specific about which 3rd party packages > were causing > > problems? > > Flash, newer version of Firefox, mplayer, to name a few. > > >

Re: Ubuntu Linux experiences?

2005-01-05 Thread Travis Roy
Yah, that's the main problem I see with this. People bitch about RPM dependancy/conflict hell, but when you stay with the right distro and the correct version you rarely see it. It's when you start using Mandrake rpms on a Fedora box or something like that when you really start to see problems.

Re: Ubuntu Linux experiences?

2005-01-05 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 10:00 -0500, Scott Garman wrote: > I was initially under the impression that the distro could use any > packages from Debian as well. Is that not the case? If you're talking about the main debian repositories, the following is from the official Ubuntu FAQ (https://www.ubuntul

Reminder: DLSLUG: Monthly Meeting - January 6th

2005-01-05 Thread Bill McGonigle
Please RSVP if you haven't already. We need a headcount for refreshments. *** Dartmouth-Lake Sunapee Linux Users Group http://www.dlslug.org/ **

Our very own Chris on Slashdot

2005-01-05 Thread Travis Roy
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/05/1537257&tid=95&tid=98 Hittin' the big times with the rumor stories. :) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss

Re: Ubuntu Linux experiences?

2005-01-05 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 09:33 -0500, Scott Garman wrote: > Has anyone on the list worked with the Ubuntu distribution yet? Ayup - we're rapidly moving to deploying it on our workstations and so far we love it. On the technical side, setup was nice and easy, the desktop was great, printer (combo pr

Re: [OT] Re: America. The land of the not-so-free (economy)

2005-01-05 Thread paul.cour1
Hello Thank you for inserting the "OT" in the subject line. The message was indeed off topic. paulc > > From: Jon maddog Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/01/05 Wed AM 08:45:02 EST > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin D. Clark) > CC: Greg Rundlett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >GNHLUG > Subject: [

Re: Ubuntu Linux experiences?

2005-01-05 Thread Ed Lawson
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 10:00:15 -0500 Scott Garman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll consider it, but I'm looking for something that can be used as a > both a quickly evolving desktop distribution but which also has long > term support for enterprise applications. Well, you can run Debian unstable

Re: Ubuntu Linux experiences?

2005-01-05 Thread Travis Roy
Excellent - this is exactly the kind of thing I want to hear about. Can you be more specific about which 3rd party packages were causing problems? Flash, newer version of Firefox, mplayer, to name a few. I was initially under the impression that the distro could use any packages from Debian as well

Re: Ubuntu Linux experiences?

2005-01-05 Thread Scott Garman
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 09:48 -0500, Travis Roy wrote: > I've used it, had to dump it due to lack of support for some things I > needed. Most of it wasn't in the default apt repository and after adding > in some 3rd party ones that broke a whole ton of stuff and made the > system very unstable. E

Re: Ubuntu Linux experiences?

2005-01-05 Thread Travis Roy
I've used it, had to dump it due to lack of support for some things I needed. Most of it wasn't in the default apt repository and after adding in some 3rd party ones that broke a whole ton of stuff and made the system very unstable. The new debian installer is very nice and very easy to follow,

Ubuntu Linux experiences?

2005-01-05 Thread Scott Garman
Has anyone on the list worked with the Ubuntu distribution yet? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ I've been testing it in VMWare and I'm very impressed with what I've seen. I've had very little luck with Debian in the past, particularly getting it installed (I'm generally a RedHat/Fedora/Mandrake user

[OT] Re: America. The land of the not-so-free (economy)

2005-01-05 Thread Jon maddog Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Other than the fact that the Heritage Foundation's web server seems to run > Linux, this entire thread seems to be off-topic. No, I disagree. Freedom of software is often limited by the freedom of the economy and what the government does with it. In my travels around t

Re: Anyone interested in CUPS?

2005-01-05 Thread Ed Lawson
Whoa, I am a hapless end user and PHB. I was thinking of doing a rather simple intro on how to set CUPS up for printers attached to the local machine, to print server devices and remote computers running a CUPS server assuming there are no odd gotches. Beyond that would be out of my league. Ed

Re: America. The land of the not-so-free (economy)

2005-01-05 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Other than the fact that the Heritage Foundation's web server seems to run Linux, this entire thread seems to be off-topic. --kevin -- GnuPG ID: B280F24E And the madness of the crowd alumni.unh.edu!kdc Is an epileptic fit

Re: FC3 and video...

2005-01-05 Thread Ed Robbins
Fred wrote: I just upgraded from FC2 to FC3. Bad idea. I've had endless problems with getting the ieee1394 and related modules to work, and also I am no longer able to play DVDs through Xine. I am seriously thinking of downgrading back to FC2. I think part of the problem is that much of the code is

FC3 and video...

2005-01-05 Thread Fred
I just upgraded from FC2 to FC3. Bad idea. I've had endless problems with getting the ieee1394 and related modules to work, and also I am no longer able to play DVDs through Xine. I am seriously thinking of downgrading back to FC2. I think part of the problem is that much of the code is not compl

Re: America. The land of the not-so-free (economy)

2005-01-05 Thread Fred
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 03:07 -0500, Greg Rundlett wrote: > quote: ... > Now in its 11th edition, the Index is the most up-to-date and > comprehensive source of data on taxes, tariffs, regulations, monetary > policy, and the burden of government around the world. > > source: > http://www.heritage.

Re: Anyone interested in CUPS?

2005-01-05 Thread Fred
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 00:56 -0500, Benjamin Scott wrote: ... > In the end, we ripped CUPS out and replaced it with LPRng, which, while > much less friendly and magical, does actually listen when told: "Sit down, > shut up, and do what I tell you." > > I suppose I would benefit from a meeting o

America. The land of the not-so-free (economy)

2005-01-05 Thread Greg Rundlett
quote: Economic freedom is the measure of the roadblocks governments put in place that prevent their citizens from achieving success. Not surprisingly, countries with the greatest economic freedom enjoy strong economic growth. Unfree countries, conversely, do not. Long a symbol of economic pros