Re: [OT] Creating The Perfect Cookie

2005-11-15 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/15/05, Michael ODonnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...in which the Open Source development model makes an appearance: > http://www.gladwell.com/2005/2005_09_05_a_bakeoff.html When I saw the subject line, my first thought was of HTTP protocol state mechanisms. I think I need a vacatio

Re: in-situ conversion to FT disk config?

2005-11-15 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/15/05, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is 'target' on a different filesystem? In the test I ran with that message, no. I just repeated said test across multiple filesystems. Same behavior -- it appears to preserve hard links onto the target filesystem. That is on Whitebox 3.

[OT] Creating The Perfect Cookie

2005-11-15 Thread Michael ODonnell
...in which the Open Source development model makes an appearance: http://www.gladwell.com/2005/2005_09_05_a_bakeoff.html ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss

Re: SOHO Backups?

2005-11-15 Thread Jason Stephenson
Jim Kuzdrall wrote: However, I hear CD-ROM is unreliable even over 12 months, so that's out. I have heard this too. Does anyone know the physical mechanism responsible for the deterioration? I seem to associate the tale with a study at a library, and the CDROMs being scratched by handl

Re: SOHO Backups?

2005-11-15 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
> However, I hear CD-ROM is unreliable even over 12 months, so that's > out. I have heard this too. Does anyone know the physical mechanism responsible for the deterioration? I seem to associate the tale with a study at a library, and the CDROMs being scratched by handling. If that is th

Re: in-situ conversion to FT disk config?

2005-11-15 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Nov 15, 2005, at 17:23, Ben Scott wrote: $ mkdir target Is 'target' on a different filesystem? Last experience I had with this was on an FC3 with a disk used for rsnapshot backups - the hardlinks on that disk represent ~15 copies of the data, and when copying this filesystem to another d

Re: SOHO Backups?

2005-11-15 Thread John Abreau
Brian Chabot wrote: Take a PC, add a removable HDD enclosure, and buy a couple extra caddies to go with it. Add appropriately sized HDD's. Insert removable HDD. Mount it. Mirrordir to it. Unmount it. Remove and store safely. Lather. Rinse. Repeat. I do my backups at home in two stage

Re: in-situ conversion to FT disk config?

2005-11-15 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/15/05, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > cp -a will ruin your hardlinks. "cp -a" preserves hardlinks in the version *I* have. $ rpm -qf `which cp` coreutils-4.5.3-26 $ mkdir testdir $ cd testdir $ mkdir source $ cd source $ touch foo $ ln foo bar $ cat bar $ echo hello > foo $ c

busybox to the rescue

2005-11-15 Thread Drew Van Zandt
For any of you who occasionally manage to accidentally do something stupid to one of your systems (as I did today) I highly recommend keeping a statically linked copy of busybox (combined core system tools, e.g. ls, cp, mv) tucked away somewhere on your root filesystem. :-) I was able to recover

Domain Registrar Woes

2005-11-15 Thread Python
I help run the domain HowsYourHealth.Org Unfortunately the domain was deleted from the root servers on Friday. These are the status lines from whois: > Domain ID:D34496398-LROR Domain Name:HOWSYOURHEALTH.ORG Created On:12-Sep-2000 14:43:19 UTC Last Updat

Re: SOHO Backups?

2005-11-15 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Nov 15, 2005, at 15:50, Ed Lawson wrote: Just to clarify, when you say turn it off, you mean simply turning off the hotswap drive tray before you take it out and plugging the next one in and then turning the drive on. Right? Exactly right. After unmounting, the drive/sled is still powered

Re: SOHO Backups?

2005-11-15 Thread Ed Lawson
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:34:15 -0500 Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I use (3) 300GB IDE hard drives, mounted into IDE 'hotswap' sleds which > slide into a firewire case. > > Backup procedure: > 1) umount the current disk (disk a) > 2) turn it off > 3) swap sleds (disk a comes out, di

Re: SOHO Backups?

2005-11-15 Thread Ed Lawson
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:42:11 -0500 Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What's the current thinking on backup systems for small businesses? I > have a client with a 6-year-old PC and tape drive, still running > (tested and verified) tapes on rotation. It all depends of the size of the ba

Re: SOHO Backups?

2005-11-15 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Nov 15, 2005, at 14:42, Ted Roche wrote: Anyone else have a different idea for backups or is tape still the thing? I use (3) 300GB IDE hard drives, mounted into IDE 'hotswap' sleds which slide into a firewire case. Backup procedure: 1) umount the current disk (disk a) 2) turn it off 3) s

Re: SOHO Backups?

2005-11-15 Thread Brian Chabot
Ted Roche wrote: > Anyone else have a different idea for backups or is tape still the > thing? I've set up tape backups for customers in the past... PITA. I've not tried it yet, but I have an idea for one... With the price of hard drives these days, you might as well at least consider a HDD b

Re: SOHO Backups?

2005-11-15 Thread Python
If 256MB is big enough, then rsync + dirvish could be worth considering. You'd need enough bandwidth to push the data to an off-site location running dirvish. Dirvish uses hard-links to provide daily snap shot directories where unchanged files are linked into as many consecutive snapshots as possi

Re: Jabber experiences

2005-11-15 Thread klussier
From: Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Add to Address Book] [View Source] > I agree with Ken on this one. If you're looking for a plop down, configure, > and just run server, eJabberd is the best open source solution. I found that after having deployed the Jabberd v1 a

SOHO Backups?

2005-11-15 Thread Ted Roche
Speaking, as Ben was, of backups What's the current thinking on backup systems for small businesses? I have a client with a 6-year-old PC and tape drive, still running (tested and verified) tapes on rotation. Is there a better solution these days? Years ago, I thought CD-R or DVD would

Re: HylaFAX or other Print-to-Fax capabilities of Linux with Windows clients?

2005-11-15 Thread Thomas Charron
  Hrm, another project that I just found, and looks pretty nice for an open project   http://winprinthylafax.sourceforge.net/     Just print it to the fax, and it asks for information such as fax number, etc..    Thomas  On 11/13/05, Dan Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thomas Charron wrote:> On

Re: HylaFAX or other Print-to-Fax capabilities of Linux with Windows clients?

2005-11-15 Thread Thomas Charron
  Yes, the fax number can be..  Well, blech..  ;-)     I've been wanting too see someone try out http://www.ifax.com/content/view/36/88/     It actually serves as a fax service within the Microsoft Fax environment, so things like 'Send Fax From Word', etc, would be directed thru the server itself. 

Re: smart card authentication with Linux?

2005-11-15 Thread Paul Lussier
Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you don't trust the user to not copy the ssh key off the image (you > mentioned honest users) and you're not using SELinux and you allow > them root on their machines then you need a smart-card. Let's just say that I believe them to be honest, but I

Re: Jabber experiences

2005-11-15 Thread Thomas Charron
  I agree with Ken on this one.  If you're looking for a plop down, configure, and just run server, eJabberd is the best open source solution.     IF, and I say IF real loud, you need to do ANY sort of custom integration, i.e., external user authentication, rosters modified by external applciations

Re: in-situ conversion to FT disk config?

2005-11-15 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Nov 15, 2005, at 12:49, Ben Scott wrote: Or, for something simple like this, cp -a /source /target/ cp -a will ruin your hardlinks. - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 6

Re: in-situ conversion to FT disk config?

2005-11-15 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/14/05, John Abreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After that, well, RAID protects you from a hardware failure; it's not a > replacement for backups. This cannot be over-emphasized. I've repeatedly had the argument with clients/bosses/etc. about "Why do we need backups? We've got redundant

Re: in-situ conversion to FT disk config?

2005-11-15 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/15/05, Michael ODonnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > theoretically it should be possible to lay the {RAID,LVM,otherFT} > metadata down on the disks such that any existing > MBR,filesystem} bits remain untouched and the disk becomes > usable as part of an FT config ... Sure! Just use the e

Re: in-situ conversion to FT disk config?

2005-11-15 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Nov 15, 2005, at 08:36, Michael ODonnell wrote: theoretically it should be possible to lay the {RAID,LVM,otherFT} metadata down on the disks such that any existing {MBR,filesystem} bits remain untouched and the disk becomes usable as part of an FT config I bet this has something to do with

Re: in-situ conversion to FT disk config? - backup FYI

2005-11-15 Thread Drew Van Zandt
300GB drive $89 after $40 rebate at TigerDirect: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1388892&Tab=5 Limit 1. Seagate / 300GB / 7200 / 8MB / ATA-100 / 5-year warranty. Also, make sure you have a boot CD that speaks RAID, in case you oops. :-) --DTVZ On 11/

Re: smart card authentication with Linux?

2005-11-15 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Nov 14, 2005, at 20:53, Paul Lussier wrote: What I'm looking for is something that when an honest person leaves the company, or switches out of a position where this type of access is required, the card can then be passed on to another person without necessitating the change of keys on all cu

Re: in-situ conversion to FT disk config?

2005-11-15 Thread Michael ODonnell
>> perform an on-the-fly conversion from my vulnerable >> single disk config to an FT config that brings that >> second disk (hdc) into play without me needing to make >> substantial changes to hda. > >No, that won't work; when you set up RAID or LVM on the >disks, you'll lose all the data on the

Re: SLUG meeting tonight at 7pm in Morse rm 301

2005-11-15 Thread Ted Roche
On Nov 14, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Robert E. Anderson wrote: We'll be going through all the initialization scripts and configuration files starting with grub.conf on up through the boot sequence to the application level. THAT sounds like a great topic! Hope it went well. _

Re: was Re: Alternative to k3b? now: DVD write is too slow

2005-11-15 Thread Randy Edwards
> Should I just attempt to reinstall k3b ? I would. Under GNU/Linux, it *shouldn't* lose packages or file or have a lot of other issues that are common in the Windows world. But it occasionally does have those issues. When something "weird" like that goes on, my preference is to delete

Re: HylaFAX or other Print-to-Fax capabilities of Linux with Windows clients?

2005-11-15 Thread Ted Roche
On Nov 13, 2005, at 11:36 PM, Dan Jenkins wrote: How does it determine the fax number to send to? Does it still try to extract it from the document? The last testing I did had real problems recognizing the fax number in the documents. The formatting needed was too strict for my clients' need