Re: Stupid question regarding Thunderbird and IMAP

2006-07-27 Thread Mark E. Mallett
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 06:50:58PM -0400, Fred wrote: > > What is it that KMail is doing that the other clients are not? KMail has no > problem creating subdirs though IMAP. So -- presumably -- there must be > something in the IMAP protocol that allows KMail to deal with the mbox > limitations.

Re: Stupid question regarding Thunderbird and IMAP

2006-07-27 Thread Mark E. Mallett
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 05:16:06PM -0400, Dan Jenkins wrote: > Fred wrote: > > >Thanks to both you and John. It is definitely using the mbox format. I'll > >have to switch it to using Maildir, but wonder about converting the mbox > >to Maildir in the many existing folders across many existing ac

Re: [OT] The China-Russia-US Geopolitical Dynamical System (!!!)

2006-07-27 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 08:17:21PM -0400, Fred wrote: > On Thursday 27 July 2006 15:23, Ben Scott uttered thusly: > > SET self-appointed net.cop mode = ON > > > > Could we take the China/US/whatever debate off-list please? > > > > SET self-appointed net.cop mode = OFF > > > > Please note that I

[OT] The China-Russia-US Geopolitical Dynamical System (!!!)

2006-07-27 Thread Gregory Smith
***On Thu 8:21p Jul 27 Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote*** >I have heard many in the past claim that humans can't be predicted by >mathematics. I say they're all wrong. :-) The real irony is that I wish I >were wrong, because their are far-reaching and deep implications -- all of >which scares the

Re: Stupid question regarding Thunderbird and IMAP

2006-07-27 Thread Fred
On Thursday 27 July 2006 13:26, Kevin D. Clark uttered thusly: ... > [1] Usually with each IMAP server there is a program that reads from > stdin and writes to a folder(Maildir), but I'm not familiar > enough with dovecot to know what that program is. I happen to > know procmail pr

[OT] The China-Russia-US Geopolitical Dynamical System (!!!)

2006-07-27 Thread Fred
On Thursday 27 July 2006 15:23, Ben Scott uttered thusly: > SET self-appointed net.cop mode = ON > > Could we take the China/US/whatever debate off-list please? > > SET self-appointed net.cop mode = OFF > > Please note that I am empowered to speak only for myself. > > Thanks, > > -- Ben "Sor

Re: Stupid question regarding Thunderbird and IMAP

2006-07-27 Thread Jason Stephenson
You seem to have already gotten answers on your problem and I hope that they work for you. Something I'll add is that when building UW Imap (boo hiss! I hear you jeer), I've had to use the WITH_NETSCAPE_BRAINDAMAGE option to get IMAP to work properly with Mozilla and Mozilla-based mail progr

OT: Whirled Peas (was Re: Malware "best practices")

2006-07-27 Thread Jason Stephenson
Fred wrote: Humans will never learn to live in peace (I pray that I am wrong here). Oh well. Perhaps the way to induce peaceful living would be to give the cyber-equivalent of the thermonuclear bomb to everyone. Kinda like giving everyone a lit match whilst standing in a pool of petrol. Idi

Re: Malware "best practices"

2006-07-27 Thread Jason Stephenson
Ben Scott wrote: The MySpace "worm" does highlight something important: Programmers keep making the same stupid mistakes, over and over and over and over and over again. As a programmer, I can tell you why. Most programmers are not well versed in the art or the science (if there really is an

Re: Stupid question regarding Thunderbird and IMAP

2006-07-27 Thread Fred
On Thursday 27 July 2006 17:29, Jeff Kinz uttered thusly: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 05:16:06PM -0400, Dan Jenkins wrote: > > Fred wrote: > > >Thanks to both you and John. It is definitely using the mbox format. > > > I'll have to switch it to using Maildir, but wonder about converting > > > the mbo

Re: Stupid question regarding Thunderbird and IMAP

2006-07-27 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 05:16:06PM -0400, Dan Jenkins wrote: > Fred wrote: > >Thanks to both you and John. It is definitely using the mbox format. I'll > >have to switch it to using Maildir, but wonder about converting the mbox to > >Maildir in the many existing folders across many existing accou

Re: Stupid question regarding Thunderbird and IMAP

2006-07-27 Thread Dan Jenkins
Fred wrote: Thanks to both you and John. It is definitely using the mbox format. I'll have to switch it to using Maildir, but wonder about converting the mbox to Maildir in the many existing folders across many existing accounts. Fun city... Ok, well, I know enough now to know what to do.

Re: [OT] Re: Malware "best practices"

2006-07-27 Thread Ben Scott
SET self-appointed net.cop mode = ON Could we take the China/US/whatever debate off-list please? SET self-appointed net.cop mode = OFF Please note that I am empowered to speak only for myself. Thanks, -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug

[OT] Re: Malware "best practices"

2006-07-27 Thread Randy Edwards
> China is definitely the one to watch, because they are the ones with the > *real* power -- economic power over the US. The US may "talk big", but > will quickly roll over and whimper like a puppy whenever China seriously > threatens to flex its muscle. Who's "fault" is that? The above se

Re: Malware "best practices"

2006-07-27 Thread Fred
On Thursday 27 July 2006 10:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered thusly: > Original message ... > > Today, phone systems are pretty much insecure. Some > > security systems use the same network as everything > > else. I wouldn't be surprised to see something like > > the above in the n

Re: Stupid question regarding Thunderbird and IMAP

2006-07-27 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 01:28:36PM -0400, Stephen Ryan wrote: > On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 13:11 -0400, John Abreau wrote: > > Fred wrote: > > > > > Thanks to both you and John. It is definitely using the mbox format. I'll > > > have to switch it to using Maildir, but wonder about converting the mbox

Re: Stupid question regarding Thunderbird and IMAP

2006-07-27 Thread Stephen Ryan
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 13:11 -0400, John Abreau wrote: > Fred wrote: > > > Thanks to both you and John. It is definitely using the mbox format. I'll > > have to switch it to using Maildir, but wonder about converting the mbox to > > Maildir in the many existing folders across many existing accoun

Re: Stupid question regarding Thunderbird and IMAP

2006-07-27 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Fred writes: > Thanks to both you and John. It is definitely using the mbox format. I'll > have to switch it to using Maildir, but wonder about converting the mbox to > Maildir in the many existing folders across many existing accounts. The last time I needed to do this, I just whipped togethe

Re: Stupid question regarding Thunderbird and IMAP

2006-07-27 Thread John Abreau
Fred wrote: > Thanks to both you and John. It is definitely using the mbox format. I'll > have to switch it to using Maildir, but wonder about converting the mbox to > Maildir in the many existing folders across many existing accounts. > > Fun city... > A while back, I found a tool to convert

Re: Stupid question regarding Thunderbird and IMAP

2006-07-27 Thread Fred
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 22:28, Dan Jenkins uttered thusly: > Fred wrote: > >Any suggestions? Am I missing something glaringly obvious? Or is there a > > real issue with Thunderbird (and Seamonkey and Mozilla and > > SquirrelMail)? > > As John Abreau said, make sure you are using Maildir folders,

Re: Malware "best practices"

2006-07-27 Thread Mark Gelinas
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:05:39 -0400, Chris Brenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 2006-07-23 at 21:41 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: Despite all the talk about heuristics, virus detection is still almost entirely dependent on recognizing signatures of know viruses. With good reason. AV vendo

Re: Malware "best practices"

2006-07-27 Thread bmcculley
Original message >Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:10:17 -0400 >From: "Tom Buskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Malware "best practices" [...] > > Anyone read some of the Cyberpunk science fiction. > Specifically by William Gibson? > > In one of his stories/novels they want to

Re: Malware "best practices"

2006-07-27 Thread Tom Buskey
On 7/26/06, Chris Brenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Agreed, but the cost was distributed. I think you would be hard pressedto find anyone that went out of business solely because of Slammer. Dueto modern spear virus attacks I've seen:* R&D documentation worth multi-millions stolen and end up at a

Re: heuristics problem (was: Re: Malware "best practices")

2006-07-27 Thread Tom Buskey
On 7/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From: Chris Brenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 15:03 -0400, Ben Scott wrote:I think the mainframe world is concerned with making the VMs robust enough to endure unintentional abuse not maliciousintent.  Outside attackers are c

Re: Malware "best practices"

2006-07-27 Thread Drew Van Zandt
DTVZ has worked in "those places" and they had separate systems with net access, and never the twain shall meet. On the other hand, "those places" had a more sensible policy. If a user does something dumb[1] once, that may well be enough to get them fired (or lose their security clearance, which