[GNHLUG] Happy birthday, GNHLUG!

2006-10-19 Thread Ben Scott
It has been pointed out that GNHLUG turned 12 today. The first ever GNHLUG meeting took place on this day (19 Oct) in 1994, in Nashua: http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/FirstAnnouncement Happy birthday, GNHLUG. To everyone who has contributed in the past, or does so today: Thank you

Re: Linux military tactics

2006-10-19 Thread Ben Scott
On 10/19/06, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Where are these battles you speak of? Who's fighting? You seem to think there's something to win or lose here. "We are Linux. Resistance is an indication that you have missed the point." -- Unknown -- Ben

RFC: VMWare talk for MerriLUG Nov meeting

2006-10-19 Thread Shawn K. O'Shea
Greetings, I've agreed to do a talk about VMWare for the MerriLUG November meeting. I've got a decent amount of experience from using it at work for the last few months and it seems to be something people have interest in (or at least virtualization in general). The comments I'm requesting are fo

Re: Linux military tactics

2006-10-19 Thread Paul Lussier
brk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Right, in subsections of the market linux owns a healthy chunk. In > others it is a rounding error. > > In the O/S market overall, linux is still a minority and not making > any significant in-roads. There are several groups/projects pushing > the linux desktop

Re: Spam and mailing lists

2006-10-19 Thread Paul Lussier
brk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The linux community is made up of militias, when what it needs is an army. This assumes that those of us choosing to use Linux care what others use and feel it our mission to attempt to "convert the great unwashed". Whereas in reality, many of who use do so bec

Seperating networks

2006-10-19 Thread Steven C. Peterson
I currently use a Linux box running Clark Connect to run my network, this box supply's a modified Linksys wrt54g to provide my wireless services that said most of my devices run on the wireless, the wrt54g pulls dhcp provided by the Linux box, I am unaware of what software Clark connect uses to

Re: Spam and mailing lists

2006-10-19 Thread Mark E. Mallett
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 07:26:55AM -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > On 10/16/06, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Hello, world! > > I'm a bit surprised we haven't heard from any Postfix or qmail fans > in this thread. Perfect holy war folder here, people, come on. :) Choices are fun, and not j

Re: Spam and mailing lists

2006-10-19 Thread Mark E. Mallett
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:42:44PM -0400, mike ledoux wrote: > On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 07:16:05PM -0400, Travis Roy wrote: > > >Since I suggested it I should probably explain why I suggested this > > >change. It's very simple... I perfer that mailing lists have the name of > > >the list in the sub

Re: Spam and mailing lists

2006-10-19 Thread Darrell Michaud
I'm now using postfix + blacklists + spamassassin in daemon mode for server side filtering. I've found that the blacklists are moderately effective, the strict verification rules you can put into postfix are very effective, and spamassassin out of the box is not that effective. On the client side

Testing

2006-10-19 Thread Travis Roy
Just a test -- Travis Roy ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/

Re: DST changes in 2007

2006-10-19 Thread Jon maddog Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Since the good ole gub'mint is involved, I've got money on having to do this > at least twice :) Unfortunately the ROM in my Casio watch will be harder to update. md -- Jon "maddog" Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

PySIG next Thursday (26 Oct 2006) - Lambda expressions! meld! SciTE! Subversion! Cookies!

2006-10-19 Thread Bill Sconce
PySIG -- New Hampshire Python Special Interest Group Amoskeag Business Incubator, Manchester, NH 26 October 2006 (4th Thursday) 7:00PM Python Development Tools -- meld, SciTE, Subversion Lambda expressions The monthly meeting of PySIG, the New Hampshire Python Special Interest Group, happens on

Re: Linux military tactics (was: Spam and mailing lists)

2006-10-19 Thread brk
On Oct 19, 2006, at 10:00 AM, Ben Scott wrote: On 10/19/06, brk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This whole discussion has shown why linux has such a hard time winning serious market-share. My understanding is that Linux has won "serious market-share" in the server/infrastructure area, but has had

Re: Spam and mailing lists

2006-10-19 Thread brk
On Oct 19, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Ben Scott wrote: On 10/19/06, brk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just pick an MTA and be done with it, as long as the list mail gets through 95% of the subscriber base probably doesn't care. The topic for this list is Linux and related software. I never said it wa

Re: [Wed Oct 18 22:34:33 EDT 2006] [temp:63 fahrenheit][partly cloudy] Spam and mailing lists

2006-10-19 Thread Tom Buskey
On 10/18/06, Michael ODonnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wish there was some sort of standard for email messages that provided for a special section (maybe near the beginning?) reserved for information about the message itself, like the date, the destination address, the sender's address, etc.

[OFF TOPIC] [DST-sucks] (was: DST changes in 2007)

2006-10-19 Thread Ben Scott
On 10/19/06, Tom Buskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Blame it on FDR. It was a wartime thing to get more daylight working hours into the factories. I'm not expert on history, but I do believe artificial lighting existing in the 1940's. I might also point out that one does not need to change t

Re: Spam and mailing lists

2006-10-19 Thread Ben Scott
On 10/19/06, brk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just pick an MTA and be done with it, as long as the list mail gets through 95% of the subscriber base probably doesn't care. The topic for this list is Linux and related software. That would include MTAs. There's lots of people here with experienc

Linux military tactics (was: Spam and mailing lists)

2006-10-19 Thread Ben Scott
On 10/19/06, brk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This whole discussion has shown why linux has such a hard time winning serious market-share. My understanding is that Linux has won "serious market-share" in the server/infrastructure area, but has had relatively limited adoption "on the desktop". F

Re: DST changes in 2007

2006-10-19 Thread Mark Komarinski
On 10/18/2006 10:43 PM, Ben Scott wrote: > It's easy for most computer systems, but what about (e.g.) a > photocopier or a phone system with fixed firmware that cannot be > updated? Both are real examples from where I work. Now I'm going to > have to manually change the time twice a year. > > T

Re: DST changes in 2007

2006-10-19 Thread Tom Buskey
On 10/18/06, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: And don't give me any bullshit about farmers.  Farmers get up when theanimals do, and always have.  It's been a political thing from dayone.  It's easier to dick with the clocks then it is to solve realproblems. Blame it on FDR.  It was a wartime t

Re: Spam and mailing lists

2006-10-19 Thread brk
This whole discussion has shown why linux has such a hard time winning serious market-share. The linux community is made up of militias, when what it needs is an army. People are arguing over subject-line formatting and MTA's for a mailing list that is lucky to get a half-dozen messages

Re: Spam and mailing lists

2006-10-19 Thread Paul Lussier
"Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 10/16/06, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hello, world! > > I'm a bit surprised we haven't heard from any Postfix or qmail fans > in this thread. Perfect holy war folder here, people, come on. :) I've never used Exim, but don't see any reas

Re: The final solution

2006-10-19 Thread Paul Lussier
"Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 10/18/06, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Dealing with consoles, xterms, and Xauthority >> are highly encouraged, but not required. > > You should get X resources in there, too. Well, if an implementor chose to be X compliant, one of the c

Re: Spam and mailing lists

2006-10-19 Thread Python
On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 07:26 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > On 10/16/06, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, world! > > I'm a bit surprised we haven't heard from any Postfix or qmail fans > in this thread. Perfect holy war folder here, people, come on. :) > > Ha ha, only serious. I'v

Re: Spam and mailing lists

2006-10-19 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Thursday 19 October 2006 12:30 am, Ben Scott wrote: > In the meantime, is http://www.exim.org/ the best place to go to > learn about Exim? I've been quiet in this conversation so far, but I figured now is a good time to pipe up my Exim support as well. I've been a fan for some time and got

Re: Spam and mailing lists

2006-10-19 Thread Ben Scott
On 10/16/06, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, world! I'm a bit surprised we haven't heard from any Postfix or qmail fans in this thread. Perfect holy war folder here, people, come on. :) Ha ha, only serious. I've got someone that's got my half-way convinced that Exim is better