Re: Odd log messages from ISC BIND named

2009-02-03 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 02/03/2009 12:11 AM, Ben Scott wrote: So, we had around 100 of these show up in the log A hundred doesn't sound like enough to cause any trouble for the usual BIND exploits or DoS's nor are the names astonishingly long or anything. Odd. -Bill -- Bill McGonigle, Owner Work:

Re: UNIX vs Unix (was: Time for Linux)

2009-02-03 Thread Bill McGonigle
Great story, but illustrative of the problem: On 02/01/2009 04:11 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: Whether or not Dennis wanted to change it, UNIX(R) as registered by the Open Group, holder of the standard, the brand and the trademark, is UNIX (all big caps). Which is why most folks avoid its

Re: Suqashing Facebook (WAS: Conducting GNHLUG business on Facebook (was Stop! Unix Time))

2009-02-03 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 02/02/2009 12:35 AM, virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: Instead of hosting a Web site in order to host a Web site, people are putting pages on third-party services like Facebook. Most people don't want websites, actually. They want to share photos and prose with their friends. Fewer still

Re: Odd log messages from ISC BIND named

2009-02-03 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 00:11 -0500, Ben Scott wrote: So, we had around 100 of these show up in the log from Sunday on liberty.gnhlug.org, all from the same IP address, all with similar but apparently never the same name pattern: client 192.0.2.42 query (cache)

Re: UNIX vs Unix (was: Time for Linux)

2009-02-03 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
I remember when Unix (instead of UNIX) first started appearing. It was when the popular press started writing about it. I was working for DEC and there was a flurry that lasted for about two or three months while our legal department kept trying to get the press to do all CAPS in the press

Re: Odd log messages from ISC BIND named

2009-02-03 Thread Chip Marshall
On February 03, 2009, Cole Tuininga sent me the following: On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 00:11 -0500, Ben Scott wrote: client 192.0.2.42 query (cache) 'aaccmmfwxdlaaabaaafbbfpg/NS/IN' denied: 1 Time(s) client 192.0.2.42 query (cache) 'abbcnefwxdlaaabaaafbkkag/NS/IN' denied: 1

Re: Odd log messages from ISC BIND named

2009-02-03 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Chip Marshall c...@2bithacker.net wrote: Could be cache-probing as well. ... Not sure how useful it is to know what people have been looking up ... But none of those domain names are even close to valid, and while I didn't check each and every one, it didn't

Re: Odd log messages from ISC BIND named

2009-02-03 Thread Chip Marshall
On February 03, 2009, Ben Scott sent me the following: But none of those domain names are even close to valid, and while I didn't check each and every one, it didn't look like there were any repeats. How would that lead to info about cached queries? Oh, I thought you had obfuscared the

Re: Suqashing Facebook (WAS: Conducting GNHLUG business on Facebook (was Stop! Unix Time))

2009-02-03 Thread Arc Riley
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Thomas Charron twaf...@gmail.com wrote: Your example is slightly counter to your argument. The thought put forth is that everyone can run a server of their own, with their own web sites, etc. So I'd be thomaschar...@kilomonkies.com. And how is gnhlug.org

Re: Odd log messages from ISC BIND named

2009-02-03 Thread Mark E. Mallett
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 12:44:01PM -0500, Chip Marshall wrote: On February 03, 2009, Ben Scott sent me the following: But none of those domain names are even close to valid, and while I didn't check each and every one, it didn't look like there were any repeats. How would that lead to

Re: Suqashing Facebook (WAS: Conducting GNHLUG business on Facebook (was Stop! Unix Time))

2009-02-03 Thread Thomas Charron
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Bill McGonigle b...@bfccomputing.com wrote: On 02/02/2009 12:35 AM, virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: Instead of hosting a Web site in order to host a Web site, people are putting pages on third-party services like Facebook. Most people don't want websites,

Re: Odd log messages from ISC BIND named

2009-02-03 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:08 PM, virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: But judging by the differences between the queries, this is more likely a known-plaintext attack on a WEP, a VPN, or similar. Okay, I might buy that, but what's it doing on our DNS server? This wasn't simply a misconfigured DNS

Re: Odd log messages from ISC BIND named

2009-02-03 Thread Mark E. Mallett
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 05:11:51PM -0500, Bruce Dawson wrote: Is it possible those strings are I18l names? (I seem to remember there being a movement a while back trying to international-ize the DNS space.) Like punycoded? Seems like you'd just see ASCII names starting with xn-- for that;

Re: Odd log messages from ISC BIND named

2009-02-03 Thread VirginSnow
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:52:01 -0500 From: Ben Scott dragonh...@gmail.com On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:08 PM, virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: But judging by the differences between the queries, this is more likely a known-plaintext attack on a WEP, a VPN, or similar. Okay, I might buy

Re: Ethernet NICs w/ USB host attach?

2009-02-03 Thread Ben Scott
Based on Jarod Wilson's information, I purchased one of the following: Mfg: StarTech Mfg P/N: USB2105S Chipset: Moschip 7830 Linux driver: mcs7830 Supplier: CDW Supplier P/N: 1288904 Cost: $12.99 + S/H/tax http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=1288904 It works pretty well for the

Re: Odd log messages from ISC BIND named

2009-02-03 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Mark E. Mallett m...@mv.mv.com wrote: It's possible that somebody's testing using random query names instead of . -- . is pretty easy to look for in the logs, but the random names are more difficult. So why not just query for google.com. or something else

Re: Odd log messages from ISC BIND named

2009-02-03 Thread Bruce Dawson
Is it possible those strings are I18l names? (I seem to remember there being a movement a while back trying to international-ize the DNS space.) --Bruce Ben Scott wrote: On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Mark E. Mallett m...@mv.mv.com wrote: It's possible that somebody's testing using random

Re: Odd log messages from ISC BIND named

2009-02-03 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:29 PM, virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: Okay, I might buy that, but what's it doing on our DNS server? If the payload space being searched included the destination IP field, the destination IP could just coincidentally have been that of liberty. Maybe I'm

Re: Odd log messages from ISC BIND named

2009-02-03 Thread VirginSnow
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:58:51 -0500 From: Ben Scott dragonh...@gmail.com On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:29 PM, virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: Okay, I might buy that, but what's it doing on our DNS server? If the payload space being searched included the destination IP field, the destination

Re: Odd log messages from ISC BIND named

2009-02-03 Thread Thomas Charron
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:11 AM, virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: Close. Known plaintext is when you know the plaintext P1 for a corresponding ciphertext C1 and want to know the plaintext P2 for another ciphertext C2. There are many ways of achieving that, but the most *general* is finding the