Re: Software RAID issues (was Re: Suggestions solicited, server bring up)

2009-11-23 Thread Tom Buskey
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Bill McGonigle b...@bfccomputing.comwrote: On 11/21/2009 11:40 AM, Bruce Labitt wrote: Bill, why not RAID-5? Isn't RAID-5 supposed to be ultra-reliable? As in hot swap disks? Or does this just apply to software RAID-5... -Bruce who knows very little

Re: Software RAID issues (was Re: Suggestions solicited, server bring up)

2009-11-23 Thread Alan Johnson
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Tom Buskey t...@buskey.name wrote: I think the RAID 5 write hole refers to the slowdown on writes with RAID 5. In order to lose data, a 2nd drive needs to fail (as opposed to only 1 drive on a RAID 0 or JBOD). According to

Re: recording Comcast digital channels with MythTV

2009-11-23 Thread Derek Atkins
Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com writes: James R. Van Zandt j...@comcast.net writes: For several years, I've been running MythTV with a Hauppauge PVR-500 dual analog tuner. However, Comcast has been moving channels from analog to digital, and they've just sent a letter announcing

Re: Software RAID issues (was Re: Suggestions solicited, server bring up)

2009-11-23 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 11/23/2009 10:31 AM, Alan Johnson wrote: We! From all the theory I've read and watched, ZFS is the end game. I'm still trying to figure out how to work it into cloud storage. Does FreeNAS some how enable ZFS over iSCSI? I can't wrap my mind around that, but the benefits of ZFS on

Re: recording Comcast digital channels with MythTV

2009-11-23 Thread Tom Buskey
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Derek Atkins warl...@mit.edu wrote: Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com writes: James R. Van Zandt j...@comcast.net writes: For several years, I've been running MythTV with a Hauppauge PVR-500 dual analog tuner. However, Comcast has been moving

Re: Software RAID issues (was Re: Suggestions solicited, server bring up)

2009-11-23 Thread Tom Buskey
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Tom Buskey t...@buskey.name wrote: I think the RAID 5 write hole refers to the slowdown on writes with RAID 5. In order to lose data, a 2nd drive needs to fail (as opposed to only 1 drive

Re: Software RAID issues (was Re: Suggestions solicited, server bring up)

2009-11-23 Thread Alan Johnson
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Bill McGonigle b...@bfccomputing.comwrote: I know of a computer company over in Lebanon that's selling 16 and 24-bay Nexenta-based ZFS storage servers that'll do iscsi, nfs, smb with impressive ease. ;) OpenSolaris kernel, Ubuntu userland, block-level dedup

Re: Software RAID issues (was Re: Suggestions solicited, server bring up)

2009-11-23 Thread Bill McGonigle
I don't want to go commercial, so I won't guess the name, but are the initials BFCC, but chance? ;-) you'll have to check when the new website gets pushed to live. :) A fellow on this list at the Birthday party said that iSCSI had a lot less network overhead and much better real throughput

Re: Software RAID issues (was Re: Suggestions solicited, server bring up)

2009-11-23 Thread Alan Johnson
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Bill McGonigle b...@bfccomputing.comwrote: yeah, NFS and databases aren't really a great mapping - not enough semantics are supported even if they were fast enough. But there is not a lot of meta data manipulation for DB files, mostly mtime as I turn off atime

Re: Software RAID issues (was Re: Suggestions solicited, server bring up)

2009-11-23 Thread Chip Marshall
On 23-Nov-2009, Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com sent: Nice! But then what does it look like to the client? Doesn't iSCSI appear like a block device that still needs a file system on top of it? Correct. You get a block device that you can put any filesystem you like on. Does the client need ZFS

Re: Software RAID issues (was Re: Suggestions solicited, server bring up)

2009-11-23 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 23-Nov-2009, Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com sent: Nope. As I understand it, when you do an iSCSI export of a ZFS pool, you're getting a block device with the advantages of the ZFS storage mechanism without any particular filesystem on it. I could be wrong, of course. I haven't played with