Re: ZFS vs btfrs

2022-02-23 Thread Ian Kelling
Ben Scott writes: > Hi all, > > We haven't had a really good flamewar ^W discussion on here in far too long... > > SUMMARY > > Btfrs vs ZFS. I was wondering if others would like to share their > opinions on either or both? Or something else entirely? (Maybe you > just don't feel alive if you'

Re: ZFS vs btfrs

2022-02-23 Thread Curt Howland
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Re: ZFS vs btfrs

2022-02-23 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
On 2022-02-23 11:25, Ben Scott wrote: > Hi all, > > Btfrs vs ZFS. I was wondering if others would like to share their > opinions on either or both? So... really, the two filesystems have a lot in in common. ZFS is absolutely more mature, especially WRT RAID (more below). But btrfs has some re

Re: ZFS vs btfrs

2022-02-23 Thread Mark Komarinski
I'm nowhere near as familiar with FreeBSD as I am with Debian so there's a bit more comfort to at least debug or know where to look when things go wrong.  That being said, if all you're looking for is a box to host SMB/NFS/iSCSI then either will work fine. Now on to concrete things that I see S

Re: ZFS vs btfrs

2022-02-23 Thread Jason T. Nelson
In a previous email, Mark Komarinski (mkomarin...@wayga.org) said: > For everyone else, TrueNAS SCALE was released yesterday. Debian+ZFS > makes this a lot more useful than when it was FreeBSD based. I know this is a LUG list, but out of (perhaps morbid) curiosity, why "a lot more useful"? --

Re: ZFS vs btfrs

2022-02-23 Thread Mark Komarinski
With LVM (and it looks like btrfs) you can pool mirrored drives together into what is effectively a RAID10 and you can remove individual mirrors to shrink or grow the pool.  ZFS does not allow you to do that. Once you expand a pool there's no going back.  You can replace individual drives in a

Re: ZFS vs btfrs

2022-02-23 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 11:44 AM Bruce Dawson wrote: > Well, you're more concerned with files than large blocks of data, so I > don't think either matter - other than standard filesystem performance. I wouldn't go that far. In particular, snapshots at the block layer are generally less efficient

Re: ZFS vs btfrs

2022-02-23 Thread Bruce Dawson
Well, you're more concerned with files than large blocks of data, so I don't think either matter - other than standard filesystem performance. I've had some experience with ZFS, and practically none with btrfs. ZFS is nice, but resource intensive. I suspect btrfs is similar, but probably not in

ZFS vs btfrs

2022-02-23 Thread Ben Scott
Hi all, We haven't had a really good flamewar ^W discussion on here in far too long... SUMMARY Btfrs vs ZFS. I was wondering if others would like to share their opinions on either or both? Or something else entirely? (Maybe you just don't feel alive if you're not compiling your kernel from pat