Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread fj1200
-- Original message -- From: Dave Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ben Scott writes: > > Those of you here who are already using MythTV, how do you find it > > works in day-to-day usage? > > I've been using MythTV for about 2 years or so. I like it alot better > t

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Ted Roche
On Nov 8, 2006, at 8:56 AM, Ben Scott wrote: I do wonder about the guide data for MythTV. I guess it's freely available on the 'net right now? Will that last, I wonder, if MythTV really started to gain market share. (Say, because turn-key MythTV boxes enabled more adoption.) I'm always susp

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/8/06, Randy Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What's the payback for giving away guide data? It's funny you mention that. Just yesterday I corrected the guide's channel listings for my local cable company. Hmmm, kinda like a FreeDB.org for TV. *nods* Besides corrections like that,

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Dave Johnson
Ben Scott writes: > > Note you can get unencrypted HD off of Cable in addition to OTA. > > Any idea how many unencrypted HD channels there are? Every broadcast channel. In my case that's the HD versions of: 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 25, 38 last I checked In addition, comcast sends 2 version of the analo

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Randy Edwards
> What's the payback for giving away guide data? It's funny you mention that. Just yesterday I corrected the guide's channel listings for my local cable company. Besides corrections like that, the guide needs to encourage people to code apps to their service, which some Mythers do. Bu

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Travis Roy
We are, after all, comparing a multi-million-dollar consumer appliance with an unfunded open-source project. The fact that they are of a comparable value is a remarkable tribute to the Open Source process, imo. Absolutely. I'm not trying to disparage MythTV. I'm just trying to make a budget

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/8/06, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The question you asked was whether MythTV is as "Hands-Off" as Tivo, and I think the answer is "No." While the tweaking involved is pretty minor, there probably are a few more rough edges to work out. [...] Well, I haven't even read the manual ye

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/8/06, Dave Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I really like the split model [backend + frontend(s)] which allows me to have a fanless, diskless, no-moving-parts frontend computer for the TV and a big server in the garage^H^H^H^H^H^H^H server-room. Now, that is neat. And, ironically, tha

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/8/06, Tom Buskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yup, that's been my mindset, and Myth has met that criteria well. It's completely revamped the way I watch TV. The number of hours watched has fallen a lot, but the quality of what I watch has skyrocketed. I'm in a All good stuff for MythT

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Travis Roy
If you want the best how-to for MythTV for just getting a box up and working then this is it: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php I used it the two times I set up a myth box and it was great. But having a Tivo that "just works" and as somebody that loves the suggestions feature (something

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Dave Johnson
Ben Scott writes: > Those of you here who are already using MythTV, how do you find it > works in day-to-day usage? I've been using MythTV for about 2 years or so. I like it alot better than the tivo I had before that. It has it's bugs, but they are usually minor and can be worked around witho

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Ted Roche
On Nov 8, 2006, at 8:10 AM, Tom Buskey wrote: On the Tivo, I can tell it to record everything with an actor (Tom Hanks say) or genre (motorcycle racing) or keyword (quilting). When I select a series, I can say only 1st run; no repeats. I guess alot of that comes down to the quality of your sche

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Ted Roche
On Nov 7, 2006, at 8:43 PM, Ben Scott wrote: Absolutely. The thought of TV without a good DVR is totally unacceptable to me now. It's obvious we don't have to sell you on the joys of PVR. The question you asked was whether MythTV is as "Hands-Off" as Tivo, and I think the answer is "No."

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Thomas Charron
On 11/8/06, Tom Buskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can Myth be used like a PC displaying on the TV?  I use Galleon on theTivo to play shoutcast, show weather, podcasts, movie times andlocations, etc.  I'd imagine Myth can do that.  *nod*  It can web browse, minus the Java, etc..   And if the data is

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Tom Buskey
On 11/7/06, Randy Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those of you here who are already using MythTV, how do you find it > works in day-to-day usage? Brilliantly. I have a back end on Debian Etch/Testing with 3 tuners (a PVR-350 and a PVR-500) and while the IVTV drivers aren't the most st

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-07 Thread Randy Edwards
> Those of you here who are already using MythTV, how do you find it > works in day-to-day usage? Brilliantly. I have a back end on Debian Etch/Testing with 3 tuners (a PVR-350 and a PVR-500) and while the IVTV drivers aren't the most stable, I have very, very little problem with the syste

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-07 Thread Derek Atkins
Quoting Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: "It Just Works" to coin a phrase. Or it doesn't. X-Files on Turner record fine, on Sci-Fi, they never do, so perhaps I have a setup error. But mostly it just works. Hrmmm. It's the "mostly" that concerns me. :) The screen shots on http://www.mythtv.o

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-07 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/7/06, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Those of you here who are already using MythTV, how do you find it works in day-to-day usage? Like I hear from my Tivo friends, "It will change your life." Absolutely. The thought of TV without a good DVR is totally unacceptable to me now.

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-07 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/7/06, Tom Buskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Drive replacement isn't hard. I know. I upgraded it from the single 80 GB drive it came with to the twin 120 GB units that are in there now. ;-) S3 takes away 1 feature that S2 had: Tivo2go. In order to get the HDTV and the CableCard, Tivo

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-07 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Tuesday 07 November 2006 07:21 pm, Ted Roche wrote: > "It Just Works" to coin a phrase. Or it doesn't. X-Files on Turner > record fine, on Sci-Fi, they never do, so perhaps I have a setup > error. But mostly it just works. I had an issue with SciFi too. You can fine-tune the channels in the My

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-07 Thread Ted Roche
On Nov 7, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Ben Scott wrote: Those of you here who are already using MythTV, how do you find it works in day-to-day usage? Like I hear from my Tivo friends, "It will change your life." On the Columbus Day holiday, I installed a PVR-150mce in a spare FC5 box following Jarod

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-07 Thread Travis Roy
I'm not sure the MultiRoom viewing thing is available either. For me, I just have my tivo and my normal receiver are in the basement. They go into a dual channel modulator. I have a couple IR repeaters. Now I have TiVo in every room at any time and dont' have to buy more hardware. _

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-07 Thread Tom Buskey
On 11/7/06, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At the same time, though, my Series 2 box is starting to show signs of old age. I suspect at least one of the hard drives is going bad -- perhaps both, since they are identical models purchased and installed at the same time. But even if I ge

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-07 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Tuesday 07 November 2006 02:45 pm, Ben Scott wrote: > Those of you here who are already using MythTV, how do you find it > works in day-to-day usage? My wife and I use ours a lot, but there have been wrinkles. If you intend to keep up with the latest versions, then backup often. I find I h

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-07 Thread Thomas Charron
On 11/7/06, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/7/06, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>   I'm actually having them install 2 extra non HD receivers for MythTV.  :-)  It's a tough decision for me (TiVo Series 3 vs MythTV).  I'm not that interested in high def TV right now.  Most of t

Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-07 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/7/06, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm actually having them install 2 extra non HD receivers for MythTV. :-) It's a tough decision for me (TiVo Series 3 vs MythTV). I'm not that interested in high def TV right now. Most of the programs I watch are not in HD anyway, or d

Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....

2006-11-07 Thread Thomas Charron
  *Nod*  The Linux HDTV card can only record terrestial HD signals.  HD encrypts the signal end to end, all the way to the TV when it's encrypted.  ThomasOn 11/7/06, Drew Van Zandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The Linux HDTV card won't do it?  (Encryption, I assume?)--DTVZ __

Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....

2006-11-07 Thread Thomas Charron
  I'm actually having them install 2 extra non HD receivers for MythTV.  :-)  Specifically, we want them so we can wander around the house streaming TV.  ;-P  ThomasOn 11/7/06, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/7/06, Travis Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> The Tivo HD-DVR can do it ...  Th

Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....

2006-11-07 Thread Thomas Charron
  Yes, we're on the waiting list for them.  Which annoys me, because apperently, DirecTech, the contractor in the area for DirecTV, has *6 PALLETS* of them sitting in nashua.  But they cannot give them out without DirecTV saying that they have them officially.  The installer just tried to do me a f

Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....

2006-11-07 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/7/06, Peter Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't think Lifetime subscriptions are available anymore. I was considering upgrading my Series 1 (v.1 Phillips) box to Series 3, but without Lifetime decided it wouldn't be worth it. You cannot purchase new Lifetime Service from TiVo anymor

Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....

2006-11-07 Thread Peter Blake
I don't think Lifetime subscriptions are available anymore. I was considering upgrading my Series 1 (v.1 Phillips) box to Series 3, but without Lifetime decided it wouldn't be worth it.   Pierre  On 11/7/06, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/7/06, Travis Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> The

Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....

2006-11-07 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/7/06, Travis Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The Tivo HD-DVR can do it ... The Series 3 TiVo cannot record satellite. It has NTSC, ATSC (HD OTA), and digital cable tuners, but no component inputs or anything like that for attachment to an external satellite tuner box. I'm still trying

Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....

2006-11-07 Thread Drew Van Zandt
The Linux HDTV card won't do it? (Encryption, I assume?) --DTVZ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/

Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....

2006-11-07 Thread Travis Roy
Isn't that true with even non-HD DirecTV programming?I've never found a way to do it, not that I've looked that hard. But I know the stream is encrypted.  I MEANT in a way I could get to it from Linux.  ;-)  I KNOW DirecTV offers HD PVR.On 11/7/06, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:  Gettin

Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....

2006-11-07 Thread Travis Roy
There is, you just have to use DirecTV's DVR. The Tivo HD-DVR can do it, and the new upcoming DirecTV HDDVR will be able to do the HD Locals. Getting DirecTV setup, and I don't know why I never noticed, but.. There's no way to record HD from a satalite provider. *le pout* Thomas __

Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....

2006-11-07 Thread Thomas Charron
  I MEANT in a way I could get to it from Linux.  ;-)  I KNOW DirecTV offers HD PVR.On 11/7/06, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:  Getting DirecTV setup, and I don't know why I never noticed, but..   There's no way to record HD from a satalite provider.  *le pout*  Thomas ___

*pout* HDTV No Recordee....

2006-11-07 Thread Thomas Charron
  Getting DirecTV setup, and I don't know why I never noticed, but..  There's no way to record HD from a satalite provider.  *le pout*  Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-di