Re: Debian flamewar (plus a GNU/Linux rant) (plus PHP4/PHP5 experiences)

2005-02-16 Thread Fred
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 23:28 -0500, Kevin D. Clark wrote: Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... You haven't lived until you realize that the poor slobs three cubes away from you have 6 copies of the same DLL, which they categorize by file size. When they want to run application A, they

Re: Debian flamewar (plus a GNU/Linux rant)

2005-02-16 Thread Paul Iadonisi
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 22:20 -0500, Benjamin Scott wrote: [snip] Hope that clears that up. :-) You may not agree with my estimates of what most problems with rpm have to do with ... If anything, I strongly *agree* with your views on this subject. Hmm, okay, that does clear it

Re: Debian flamewar (plus a GNU/Linux rant)

2005-02-15 Thread Paul Iadonisi
[sorry if this is a double post. I posted with the wrong address] On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 00:54 -0500, Benjamin Scott wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, at 6:43pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wait, I'm have a little trouble understanding the problem. I know you know this, but it's educational to

Re: Debian flamewar (plus a GNU/Linux rant)

2005-02-15 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, at 12:01pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There must be something about this that is either hard to comprehend, or hard to accept. It gives a lot of RPM users trouble, it gives Debian users a sense of superiority, Um, Ben ... I take exception to this. By saying that it is

Re: Debian flamewar (plus a GNU/Linux rant)

2005-02-15 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And, again, it's also largely responsible for why Windoze sucks so much. When everything a binary which you have no source for, and no two packages share information on what is being installed, and you can only install one version of any given

Re: Debian flamewar (plus a GNU/Linux rant)

2005-02-14 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, at 6:43pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wait, I'm have a little trouble understanding the problem. I know you know this, but it's educational to state it explicitly: The problem is simply that binary compatibility is hard. Easy enough; it's the implications that are

Re: Debian flamewar (plus a GNU/Linux rant)

2005-02-10 Thread Paul Iadonisi
[As The Linux Lobbyist comes to life, he says...] Oh, goody, my favorite flamewar! ;-) On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 01:09 -0500, Jason Stephenson wrote: Heh. I find this discussion mildly interesting from where I sit, a mostly xBSD user. As preface, let me say that I like the BSDs somewhat,

Re: Debian flamewar (plus a GNU/Linux rant)

2005-02-10 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Feb 10, 2005, at 18:43, Paul Iadonisi wrote: Okay, putting the sarcasm aside, I have no problem with referring to Red Hat Enterprise Linux as well as Fedora Core as GNU/Linux based operating systems. I used to not care too much about the push for GNU/Linux but upon further reflection it does