Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-30 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:22:01 -0400 Warren Luebkeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The description does say dual processors, however the picture of the motherboard clearly has two processor slots. The have several motherboards in this series, which probably accounts for the discrepancy. Unless

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-30 Thread Michael ODonnell
Recently disclosed Intel Core 2 bugs: http://www.kerneltrap.org/node/8472 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/

Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Warren Luebkeman
I asked for a quote on a server yesterday from our hardware provider, and the sales guy told me about a great new deal. For the same price as a Dual Core, 2 Ghz Xeon processor, I can get a Quad Core 1.6ghz Xeon processor. My first impression was four must be better than two, but is it really?

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Tom Buskey
server. it's licensed per 2 CPUs. A 4 core is the same as a single or dual core in their licensing. I'm finding with that, a dual quad core is cheaper then adding ram + 1 cpu to 2 systems with 3 single core cpus between them. Those 1.6GHz CPUs might use less power generate less heat. The real limit

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Warren Luebkeman
server. I've been looking at a VMware ESX server. it's licensed per 2 CPUs. A 4 core is the same as a single or dual core in their licensing. I'm finding with that, a dual quad core is cheaper then adding ram + 1 cpu to 2 systems with 3 single core cpus between them. Those 1.6GHz CPUs might

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Derek Atkins
with that, a dual quad core is cheaper then adding ram + 1 cpu to 2 systems with 3 single core cpus between them. Those 1.6GHz CPUs might use less power generate less heat. might being the key operative word here. Check the specs. The real limit on your application will likely be I/O. Bus

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Christopher Chisholm
Warren Luebkeman wrote: I asked for a quote on a server yesterday from our hardware provider, and the sales guy told me about a great new deal. For the same price as a Dual Core, 2 Ghz Xeon processor, I can get a Quad Core 1.6ghz Xeon processor. My first impression was four must be better

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Warren, These days the Linux kernel scales fairly linearly for eight processors, so the real questions are: o on the eight-core system, how often would you keep the fifth to eighth core busy? o on the four-core system, how often would you have processes in the run queue looking for a processors

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Christopher Chisholm
as a single or dual core in their licensing. I'm finding with that, a dual quad core is cheaper then adding ram + 1 cpu to 2 systems with 3 single core cpus between them. Those 1.6GHz CPUs might use less power generate less heat. might being the key operative word here. Check the specs

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Michael ODonnell
Slashdot just mentioned this review of various processors: http://techreport.com/reviews/2007q2/pricevperf/index.x?pg=1 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:53:05 -0400 Warren Luebkeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked for a quote on a server yesterday from our hardware provider, and the sales guy told me about a great new deal. For the same price as a Dual Core, 2 Ghz Xeon processor, I can get a Quad Core 1.6ghz Xeon

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread warlord
Quoting Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Most of the previous posts have pretty well answered most everything. As Maddog points out, Linux scales well up to 8 CPUs, but much work is being done with 32, 64, and 128 by IBM, HP, and SGI. In your case, it's not so much that you are going to

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Tom Buskey
On 6/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Most of the previous posts have pretty well answered most everything. As Maddog points out, Linux scales well up to 8 CPUs, but much work is being done with 32, 64, and 128 by IBM, HP, and SGI.

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Warren Luebkeman
On Friday 29 June 2007 1:27 pm, Jerry Feldman wrote: On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:53:05 -0400 Warren Luebkeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked for a quote on a server yesterday from our hardware provider, and the sales guy told me about a great new deal. For the same price as a Dual Core, 2

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Warren Luebkeman
. it's licensed per 2 CPUs. A 4 core is the same as a single or dual core in their licensing. I'm finding with that, a dual quad core is cheaper then adding ram + 1 cpu to 2 systems with 3 single core cpus between them. Those 1.6GHz CPUs might use less power generate less heat. might

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Warren Luebkeman
in mind the memory bandwidth. I've been looking at a VMware ESX server. it's licensed per 2 CPUs. A 4 core is the same as a single or dual core in their licensing. I'm finding with that, a dual quad core is cheaper then adding ram + 1 cpu to 2 systems with 3 single core cpus

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:19:23 -0400 Warren Luebkeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to the salesman the Quad Core has more cache, so I guess I'm good there. You can always look up the size either on Intel or the Tech Report article has some listed.

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:50:43 -0400 Warren Luebkeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the motherboard I'm looking at: http://www.intel.com/design/servers/boards/s5000PSL/index.htm Unless I read it wrong, this board takes a single multi-core CPU. -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jun 29, 2007, at 13:27, Jerry Feldman wrote: The 1.6Ghz vs. 2.0 Ghz is minuscule, but make sure you don't get less cache. Yeah, what Jerry said - and make sure you're not losing memory bus speed either. I've been shocked how important memory speed is to tasks like this. I'd probably