Re: FOSS benefits the field of computer engineering (was: Malware "best practices")

2006-07-30 Thread Fred
On Friday 28 July 2006 10:48, Ben Scott uttered thusly: > On 7/27/06, Jason Stephenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The MySpace "worm" does highlight something important: Programmers > >> keep making the same stupid mistakes, over and over and over and over > >> and over again. > > > > As a pro

Re: FOSS benefits the field of computer engineering

2006-07-30 Thread Fred
On Friday 28 July 2006 13:49, Jon maddog Hall uttered thusly: ... > I worked with two types of programmers in my very early days. One type > was very willing to share their code, their ideas and their skills with a > young programmer. The other type was very secretive, and did not share, > trying

Re: FOSS benefits the field of computer engineering

2006-07-28 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 02:19:18PM -0400, Jon maddog Hall wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > I'd be interested in seeing a presentation like that. Afterwards, we could > > discuss taking the GNHLUG public. > > > > From my viewpoint it is "public", it is just not "profitable". :-) Who says

Re: FOSS benefits the field of computer engineering

2006-07-28 Thread Jon maddog Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > I'd be interested in seeing a presentation like that. Afterwards, we could > discuss taking the GNHLUG public. > >From my viewpoint it is "public", it is just not "profitable". :-) md -- Jon "maddog" Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: [EM

Re: FOSS benefits the field of computer engineering

2006-07-28 Thread Michael ODonnell
> He is with a VC firm, still just as "giving" and "open" > (and technical) as before. He has offered to come and speak > at the group if people would like tips on how to approach a > VC for funding, or just to understand more about what a VC > would be looking for in a company. I'd be interes

Re: FOSS benefits the field of computer engineering

2006-07-28 Thread Jon maddog Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Again, this is just learning from experience, it has nothing to do with FOSS > specifically. Stick with a closed-source project for a few release cycles > and you will see the same thing. I will agree with this, but only to a point. A lot of shops have "coding pract

Re: FOSS benefits the field of computer engineering (was: Malware "best practices")

2006-07-28 Thread Kent Johnson
Ben Scott wrote: On 7/27/06, Jason Stephenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the commercial realm of closed source software most programmers only get to see the code of the project(s) to which they are assigned. They never get to see much code that's better or worse than what they are used to

FOSS benefits the field of computer engineering (was: Malware "best practices")

2006-07-28 Thread Ben Scott
On 7/27/06, Jason Stephenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The MySpace "worm" does highlight something important: Programmers keep making the same stupid mistakes, over and over and over and over and over again. As a programmer, I can tell you why. Most programmers are not well versed in the art