Re: Firefox security strategy (was: Firefox goodies)

2006-01-01 Thread Ben Scott
On 12/29/05, Kevin D. Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So do you like a security model or not? To me you're sending mixed > signals here. To me, a system that is designed from the ground up with > security in mind has a security model. What I'm trying to get at (albeit not clearly) is that t

Re: Firefox security strategy (was: Firefox goodies)

2005-12-30 Thread Thomas Charron
On 12/30/05, Tom Buskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/29/05, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: On 12/29/05, Bill McGonigle < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: the software changes over time.  People DON'T spend their time going to a several month audit, and find each and every exploit.  Th

Re: Firefox security strategy (was: Firefox goodies)

2005-12-30 Thread Tom Buskey
On 12/29/05, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/29/05, Bill McGonigle < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: catastrophic bug.  Guess which one has a zero-day exploit today for the same thing that was supposedly patched in the past few months?     Oh!  Oh!  I Know!  FIREFOX!  Exploits are going

Re: Firefox security strategy (was: Firefox goodies)

2005-12-29 Thread Thomas Charron
On 12/29/05, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: catastrophic bug.  Guess which one has a zero-day exploit today for thesame thing that was supposedly patched in the past few months?     Oh!  Oh!  I Know!  FIREFOX!   http://www.frsirt.com/exploits/20051212.fireburn.php http://www.eweek.com/a

Re: Firefox security strategy (was: Firefox goodies)

2005-12-29 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Dec 29, 2005, at 16:04, Ben Scott wrote: Then again, I don't really *know* anything about Firefox's internals; I've just read blurbs and articles here and there. Maybe most of what I want is already there. Firefox does have some limitations on JavaScript. For instance, I recently read

Re: Firefox security strategy (was: Firefox goodies)

2005-12-29 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Ben Scott writes: > To some extent, but not completely. Certainly, at one point in it's > history, Java was being sold as an ideal "sandbox" for things like > client-side intelligence in web pages.[1] However, it was still > designed around the idea of a general-purpose programming language >

Re: Firefox security strategy (was: Firefox goodies)

2005-12-29 Thread Ben Scott
On 12/29/05, Kevin D. Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> JavaScript should have been designed ... such that it >> doesn't even have the capability to do risky things. > > To me, you just described Java, but that's another thing entirely. To some extent, but not completely. Certainly, at one po

Re: Firefox security strategy (was: Firefox goodies)

2005-12-29 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Ben Scott writes: > I'm not against all client-side scripting. I just think a web page > should be limited to mucking around with itself only, and not be > allowed to modify the window around it, or my system, or > what-have-you. What those particular things I posted do is prevent > web page

Firefox security strategy (was: Firefox goodies)

2005-12-29 Thread Ben Scott
On 12/29/05, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... Check out NoScript ... On 12/29/05, Kevin D. Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > JavaScript can be grubby, but it also enables things like AJAX, which > can be genuinely useful/neat. Heh. I was wondering if this would happen. :) I