OT: Network problem

2003-08-28 Thread Neal Richardson
I needed to install a small hub in part of the build that was not on the network. When I connected the hub to the switch from the crossover port the whole network came crashing to the ground and the server locked up hard. Upon further investigation it turns out that the RJ45 jacks were wired c

RE: Network problem

2003-08-29 Thread Stephen Ingham
L PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal Richardson Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Network problem I needed to install a small hub in part of the build that was not on the network. When I connected the hub to the switch from the crossover port the whole networ

Re: Network problem

2003-08-29 Thread Neal Richardson
ave the network protection of a true multi-port switch. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal Richardson Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Network problem I needed to install a small hub in part of

Re: Network problem

2003-08-29 Thread Chris Brenton
Stephen Ingham wrote: A good repeater hub will automatically turn off a port when 32 consecutive collisions are detected. Humm. A collision is defined as a system following the Ethernet CSMA/CD rules that detects a different bit pattern on the receive pair Vs. what it is currently sending out on

RE: Network problem

2003-08-29 Thread Stephen Ingham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Brenton Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:57 PM To: Stephen Ingham Cc: 'Neal Richardson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Network problem Stephen Ingham wrote: > > A good repeater hub will automatically turn off a port when 32 consecutive &g

RE: Network problem

2003-08-29 Thread Stephen Ingham
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal Richardson Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Network problem It is a CNet dual speed hub the switch I believe is also cheap but I do not recall the manufacturer Stephen Ingham wrote: >Question: Wha

Re: Network problem

2003-08-29 Thread Chris Brenton
Stephen Ingham wrote: A repeater is more complicated than a "line amplifier" as Chris described it below. Actually, its not. Of course vendors are always free to add features. Routers by definition simply route traffic and don't filter it, and yet that's a feature most of us have learned to expec

Re: Network problem

2003-08-29 Thread Tom Fogal
once again ive forgotten to change the 'To:' to the list... *sigh* --- Forwarded Message To: Chris Brenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Network problem In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:56:37 EDT." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date:

Re: Network problem

2003-08-29 Thread Chris Brenton
Tom Fogal wrote: once again ive forgotten to change the 'To:' to the list... *sigh* and my response was Original Message Subject: Re: Network problem Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 07:00:14 -0400 From: Chris Brenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Tom Fogal <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Network problem

2003-08-29 Thread Chris Brenton
I'm assuming Tom forgot to re-all on his note again so I've cc'd the group. Tom Fogal wrote: Now that I look it up, it is not as specific as either of us thought. In 802.3 it is simply defined (in clause 1.4.81) as 'A condition that results from concurrent transmissions from multiple data terminal

Re: Network problem

2003-08-29 Thread Tom Fogal
> I'm assuming Tom forgot to re-all on his note again so I've cc'd the group. indeed, hahah. i remembered this time though! > Tom Fogal wrote: > > > > Now that I look it up, it is not as specific as either of us thought. In 802.3 > > it is simply defined (in clause 1.4.81) as 'A condition that r

RE: Network problem

2003-08-29 Thread Stephen Ingham
f you use cheap hubs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Brenton Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 8:10 AM To: Stephen Ingham Cc: 'Neal Richardson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Network problem Stephen Ingham wrote: > A repeater

Re: Network problem

2003-09-02 Thread bscott
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, at 8:56pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Since a hub is little more than a line amplifier, it does not "transmit" > per CSMA/CD, and thus has no way of detecting collisions. If a hub had > this type capability, we really would not need switching as it would be > trivial to retime

Re: Network problem

2003-09-02 Thread bscott
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, at 8:09am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> The following is a quote from "Cabletron Systems - Ethernet Technology >> Guide" Page 7-4. > > LOL! Oh ya, let's quote Cabletron because they are *so* well known for > their stability and market share in the industry. ;-) How about IEE

RE: Network problem

2003-09-02 Thread bscott
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, at 7:20pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Warning: Many cheap multi-port 10/100 "switches" are not true switches but > are really two repeaters plus a 2 port switch. A 10Mbit and a 100Mbit > repeater connected to all ports FYI, any "dual speed repeater" operates this way (more

Re: OT: Network problem

2003-08-29 Thread Brian Karas
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 18:34, Neal Richardson wrote: > I needed to install a small hub in part of the build that was not on > the network. When I connected the hub to the switch from the crossover > port the whole network came crashing to the ground and the server locked > up hard. Upon further

Re: OT: Network problem

2003-08-29 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 18:34, Neal Richardson wrote: > > My question is this: Is this normal behavior to have the whole network > go down due to a mis wired cable. I can understand the hub not working > but to cause the whole thing to crash seams bizarre to me Well, I have seen stranger thin

Re-Hi and a network problem...

2003-09-10 Thread Brian Chabot
Hello again! It's been a while since I've been in any way active in this LUG, but I'm back... ...and I've come across an error I thought I would never see. $ ping NNN.NNN.NNN.NNN connect: No buffer space available $ The system is a Crusoe TM5600 (Fujitsu P2046) w/ 256MB RAM and running the lat

RE: Re-Hi and a network problem...

2003-09-10 Thread Stephen Ingham
This looks like a local configuration or IP stack problem to me. Not a network problem. Try 'ifconfig' and see if it IDs your network card and IP Address. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Chabot Sent: Wednesday, Septembe

I have a network problem with my hosts file :-(

2004-12-11 Thread Steven W. Orr
Here's the deal. 533 > ls -l /etc/hosts -rw-r--r--2 root root 264 Mar 7 2004 /etc/hosts 534 > Here are the relevant entries from the file: 535 > cat /etc/hosts # Do not remove the following line, or various programs # that require network functionality will fail. 127.0.0.1

Re: I have a network problem with my hosts file :-(

2004-12-11 Thread Steven W. Orr
IL PROTECTED]> =>Sent: Sat Dec 11 16:56:21 2004 =>Subject: I have a network problem with my hosts file :-( => =>Here's the deal. => =>533 > ls -l /etc/hosts =>-rw-r--r--2 root root 264 Mar 7 2004 /etc/hosts =>534 > => =>Here are the relev

Re: I have a network problem with my hosts file :-(

2004-12-12 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Saturday, Dec 11th 2004 at 22:25 -0500, quoth Dan Jenkins: =>> -Original Message- =>> From: Steven W. Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =>> To: Greater New Hampshire Linux User Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =>> Sent: Sat Dec 11 16:56:21 2004 =>> Subject: I

Re: I have a network problem with my hosts file :-(

2004-12-13 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Sunday, Dec 12th 2004 at 21:35 -0500, quoth Fred: =>On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 18:19, Steven W. Orr wrote: =>... =>> => =>> =>BTW, dig would reference a DNS server, not a hosts file, AFAIK. =>> =>> This is interesting. I did not know this. =>> =>> Epilogue: =>> =>> I don't know why, but now it al

Re: I have a network problem with my hosts file :-(

2004-12-13 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Dec 13, 2004, at 10:16, Steven W. Orr wrote: dig or nslookup only goes through a dns server. Is there such a thing that tells me how the resolver decides which szource it got its answer from? This isn't exactly what you asked for but it may help - it's a script I wrote to help me resolve addre

Re: I have a network problem with my hosts file :-(

2004-12-11 Thread Whelan, Paul
al Message- From: Steven W. Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Greater New Hampshire Linux User Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sat Dec 11 16:56:21 2004 Subject: I have a network problem with my hosts file :-( Here's the deal. 533 > ls -l /etc/hosts -rw-r--r--2 root root

Re: I have a network problem with my hosts file :-(

2004-12-11 Thread Dan Jenkins
-Original Message- From: Steven W. Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Greater New Hampshire Linux User Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sat Dec 11 16:56:21 2004 Subject: I have a network problem with my hosts file :-( Here's the deal. 533 ls -l /etc/hosts -rw-r--r--2 root

Re: I have a network problem with my hosts file :-(

2004-12-12 Thread Fred
On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 18:19, Steven W. Orr wrote: ... > => > =>BTW, dig would reference a DNS server, not a hosts file, AFAIK. > > This is interesting. I did not know this. > > Epilogue: > > I don't know why, but now it all works again. Obviously a sign from the > multiverse telling me I need t

Re: I have a network problem with my hosts file :-(

2004-12-13 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 10:16:05AM -0500, Steven W. Orr wrote: > Is there such a thing that tells me how the resolver decides which > szource it got its answer from? Yes, the resolver man page does that. Try this: $ man 5 resolver If you mean to ask if there is a way to determine from what so