RE: High Speed Internet costs (was: Email hosting)

2003-01-22 Thread Travis Roy
> CO facilities rental. CO equipment. Data link between CO > and ISP NOC (T1, multiple T1s, or even T3 or other *REALLY* > high-speed stuff). ISP backbone equipment. > ISP servers (DNS, mail, etc.). ISP NOC facilities charges. > Test equipment. Support/service/administrative overhead.

RE: High Speed Internet costs (was: Email hosting)

2003-01-22 Thread bscott
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, at 9:00pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The exsiting ISP, be it Vitts, MV, Joe Blow local ISP, they should already > have ISP backbone equipment in place for their dialups. Just because a business is already in possession of something doesn't mean you can call it "free". Even

RE: High Speed Internet costs (was: Email hosting)

2003-01-22 Thread Travis Roy
> On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, at 9:00pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The exsiting ISP, be it Vitts, MV, Joe Blow local ISP, they should > > already have ISP backbone equipment in place for their dialups. > > Just because a business is already in possession of > something doesn't mean you can call it

Re: High Speed Internet costs (was: Email hosting)

2003-01-22 Thread bscott
>> I know that, but I imagine they still need equipment. > > But the point you seem to be missing is that the equipment is THE VERY > SAME equipment which runs the already profitable cable business. I'm not missing it at all; I'm assuming that isn't true. Look, to deliver television -- even

RE: High Speed Internet costs (was: Email hosting)

2003-01-22 Thread bscott
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, at 10:00pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > For an EXTREAMLY simple example, if I toss a cat5 cable to my neighbor and > throw in some cards and a hub after the cost of running the cable and > buying the cards and the hub what do I have to pay for now if that cable > doesn't break?

RE: High Speed Internet costs (was: Email hosting)

2003-01-22 Thread Travis Roy
> Are you telling me that they built their entire digital TV > distribution network to handle symmetric two-way traffic > before anyone suspected the Internet would hit it big? Why > the hell would they do that? Don't give me any talk about > grand visions of packet-switched networking; the

Re: High Speed Internet costs (was: Email hosting)

2003-01-23 Thread Michael O'Donnell
>First off, the government owns the airwaves, and charges high prices >to purchase rights to them. Or, if you prefer, you can have everyone >operate in an unlicensed band (like the 802.11b stuff), and deal with >the inevitable chaos that will result once serious usage picks up. This article has

RE: High Speed Internet costs (was: Email hosting)

2003-01-23 Thread David Roberts
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated in their Email: bscott> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bscott> To: Greater NH Linux User Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> bscott> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:44:30 -0500 (EST) bscott> Subject: RE: High Speed Internet costs (was: Email hosting) bscot

RE: High Speed Internet costs (was: Email hosting)

2003-01-23 Thread Travis Roy
> I not sure how this applies to ATTBI (Cable) > technology, which I thought brought this to the > surface. I seem to remember hearing once at a > MediaOne presentation that the cable companies > had a huge amount of bandwidth available (TV > used very little), and they actually had their >