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In a message dated: 20 Jan 2003 14:05:53 EST
Travis Roy said:
>who is going to use something they don't know how to install.
About 4 billion MS Windows users :)
>Surely a modern linux dist like RedHat or Mandrake is simple enough
>that anybody that can install windows should be able to deal wit
> Was this a college course? My experience and second-hand knowledge
> (which obviously is not all-inclusive by any means) is that Intro to
> Unix courses at colleges don't involve installs. And IMO, nor should
> they. Installations are appropriate for intro sysadmin courses, but
> the average u
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Subject: RE: Linux/Unix in the classroom
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Travis Roy wrote:
> Using that CD with stuff pre-installed and everything works at boot how
> do you learn to install a linux distrubution since you just put this in
> I was under the impression that we were discussing its use in
> an "Intro to Unix" course; I wouldn't expect the installation
> from scratch of a Linux distro to be a part of that course. I
> would think that the basic *nix system structure and
> philosophy, some common shell commands, how to
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Travis Roy wrote:
> Using that CD with stuff pre-installed and everything works at boot how
> do you learn to install a linux distrubution since you just put this in
> and boot? And what would there be left to install if it comes with
> everything you need? Also, where does it
> > Learning how to install from scratch? Learning how to
> install software
> > packages from source or from rpm/deb/tgz packages?
>
> Yup. Included is dpkg, apt, kdevelop, gcc 2.95 *and* 3.2, and
> enough devel packages to compile any apps you'd be likely to
> attempt in an intro class.
Usi
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Travis Roy wrote:
> > Jerry, is there a reason why you and the other instructors
> > couldn't use Knoppix to teach your courses?
>
> > One nice thing about Knoppix is that the distro has
> > practically everything you could want on the CD.
>
> Learning how to install fro
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Hewitt Tech wrote:
> Dang! I wish I had seen your response before I posted my simplistic answer.
> ;^) Ok, I'll second the recommendation. You would probably also want to
> caution the students to avoid mounting the system's hard drive or rather
> explain how to mount the dri
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 09:30:54 -0500
"Hewitt Tech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jerry, is there a reason why you and the other instructors couldn't
> use Knoppix to teach your courses? You need to be able to boot off the
> CD-ROM but once the system is booted, the system is faster to some
> extent b
> Jerry, is there a reason why you and the other instructors
> couldn't use Knoppix to teach your courses?
> One nice thing about Knoppix is that the distro has
> practically everything you could want on the CD.
Learning how to install from scratch? Learning how to install software
packages f
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From: "Tom Buskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: Linux/Unix in the classroom
There are some versions of linux that install on top of a DOS file
system. To run them, you shutdown to DOS then
idents".
-Alex
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From: "Bill Mullen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the
system probably needs a reasonable amount of RAM to work well.
-Alex
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From: "Jerry Feldman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: Linux/Unix in the classroom
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On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:13:02 -0500 (EST)
Bill Mullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jerry, perhaps one good solution for you is to burn yourself a few
> copies of the single-CD Knoppix distro. Current ISO is available at:
>
> ftp://ftp.webtrek.com/pub/mirrors/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V3.1-2003-01-01-EN.iso
On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Jerry Feldman wrote:
> > It would be nice if I could get Northeastern to do something like use
> > dual boot. But, I only teach 1 course per quarter. But, my suggestions
> > to NEU were pretty much on the same line.
>
>
> Anothe
There are some versions of linux that install on top of a DOS file
system. To run them, you shutdown to DOS then run a BAT file. I've
played with them a bit on older hardware and they felt like regular
linux with X, etc.
I don't know how well they'd work on top of NT or XP.
There are the fl
On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Jerry Feldman wrote:
> It would be nice if I could get Northeastern to do something like use
> dual boot. But, I only teach 1 course per quarter. But, my suggestions
> to NEU were pretty much on the same line.
Another alternative is to set up clones that boot up over the net
At 11:38 AM 1/18/2003 -0500, Jerry Feldman wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:16:13 -0500
Jefferson Kirkland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just wanted to add that I am attending Daniel Webster College here
> in Nashua, NH, and they use Linux for any of their *nix classes. I
> took the Unix Administr
On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:16:13 -0500
Jefferson Kirkland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just wanted to add that I am attending Daniel Webster College here
> in Nashua, NH, and they use Linux for any of their *nix classes. I
> took the Unix Administration class and the computers had Red Hat
> install
At 11:01 AM 1/18/2003 -0500, Jerry Feldman wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 06:19:48 -0800 (PST)
Vince McHugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jerry,
>
>I took several Unix\Linux classes at the Manchester
> Technical college in New Hampshire.
It would be nice if I could get Northeastern to do something
On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 06:19:48 -0800 (PST)
Vince McHugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jerry,
>
>I took several Unix\Linux classes at the Manchester
> Technical college in New Hampshire.
It would be nice if I could get Northeastern to do something like use
dual boot. But, I only teach 1 course p
Jerry,
I took several Unix\Linux classes at the Manchester
Technical college in New Hampshire. The way that they
kept hardware cost down was to use removeable hard
drives. So the lab had X amount of PCs but 4 or more
different hard drives for each. The hard drives were
labeled A thru D or G. Th
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