Rob Lembree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> mail and web are fundamentally different applications. Why any
> self-respecting Unix coder would cram them into one monolithic app
> is beyond me. I don't think that I'd ever go back to such a beast.
The Law of Software Envelopment:
``Every progra
Erik Price said:
>So, what I'm wondering is, what's the best way to make a backup of mail
>from Mozilla? I don't seen an "export" in the menus... nor in the Help
>menu. (On Win2k.)
>
backup the directory the mail is stored in. On Win2k I think it's
somewhere under Documents & Settings -> .
So, what I'm wondering is, what's the best way to make a backup of mail
from Mozilla? I don't seen an "export" in the menus... nor in the Help
menu. (On Win2k.)
Erik
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On Friday, December 20, 2002, at 08:43 PM, Erik Price wrote:
No problems with importing old mail (though it took over an hour to
fetch all my old mail).
s/fetch/import/;
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On Friday, December 20, 2002, at 01:19 PM, Rodent of Unusual Size
wrote:
mozilla seems cool as a browser, but does it do mail? how about
other alternatives?
I've been using Mozilla as a browser since 1.0, and have had nothing
but positive experiences with it (except for some reason on
mons
On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 13:19, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> one big aspect is that i have several *gb* of mail archived in
> netscrape mbox+ format (mbox plus their .snm index file). so
> whatever mua i move to needs to at least be able to handle the
> mbox files, and preferably the index files
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Travis Roy wrote:
> > > the mua needs to be able to leave pop messages on the server
> >
> > E.
>
> I agree, I use IMAP now, but I used to use pop.. Why would you ever
> leave messages on the server if you're using pop mail, unless of course
> you're doing
Yes, Mozilla does mail. It's what I'm using at the moment. It does
everything you've mentioned.
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Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Maybe a future meeting can discuss the nuances of PGP?
If you're up for a bit of a drive, the next BLU meeting in Boston is
a PGP keysigning plus a discussion o
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> (FWIW, BSD mbox is defined as follows: Simple text file. Every message is
> preceded with a 'From ...' line. Messages are RFC-822 format. Multiple
> messages are separated by
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 04:02:40PM -0500, Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, you don't. If you don't want to use the graphical browser, the
> lynx line takes care of you. You need this line in .muttrc:
>
> auto_view text/html
Alternative, set implicit_autoview=yes if you want t
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, at 4:25pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> No, it really isn't. You can claim that the original Berkeley
> implementation is the defacto standard if you want to ...
I can, and I do. Most of the Internet got built that way ("rough
consensus and working code"). Much of it still
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, at 4:02pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Evolution does not and (at least according to the developers) never will
> support traditional plain-text asci-armored PGP messages, nor clearsigned
> messages.
I believe what the developers actually said was that *they* aren't going
to
> Maybe a future meeting can discuss the nuances of PGP?
Great idea, but your message had a typo - you misspelled "nuisance"...
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> If not, I've found on nice trick when swapping MUAs is to
> use an IMAP server as a go-between, if both MUAs support
> IMAP. That is, copy the messages from the old MUA to the
> IMAP server, and then copy them from the IMAP server to local
> storage with the new MUA. It has worked prett
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 02:08:06PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual
> Size wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > Why does the browser need to be tied to the email program?
> >
> > because of the amount of rich-format mail i receive.
> bopping between
> > application windows sucketh excess
> > Why does the browser need to be tied to the email program?
>
> because of the amount of rich-format mail i receive. bopping
> between application windows sucketh excessively imho.
But there are rich-format email clients out there that are not tied into
the browser.. Outlook, Outlook Express
> > the mua needs to be able to leave pop messages on the server
>
> E.
I agree, I use IMAP now, but I used to use pop.. Why would you ever
leave messages on the server if you're using pop mail, unless of course
you're doing so to get it in another location.. But then you use I
There's a ton of email clients out there.. My only question is that why
must it be a browser/mua combo? Why can't they be two separate things?
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On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, at 2:31pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As an FYI, beware that because mbox isn't a real standard ...
Is too. ;-)
The problem with email, in general, is that because it is so useful a
thing to have, a great many different programmers have tried implementing
email software
Derek Martin wrote:
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> On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 02:53:37PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> >
> > i never said it didn't; in fact, i think i said i used it
> > for text-only mail. its failing is the handling of rich-format
> > mail, and that's just imho.
>
> Do you care to describe how it
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 02:36:11PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
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> On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 02:13:53PM -0500, Mark Komarinski wrote:
> > > > I think you will find your life gets much easier if you
> > > > split the two functions.
> > >
> > > tried i
I've very recently started using Beonex
(http://www.beonex.com/communicator/)
It has Windows and Linux versions. Based on Mozilla 1.0.1 it looks very
much like Netscape 7,
but the performance is much better. It happily imported my Netscape 4
profiles. I had to export
and import my Netscape addr
Bob Bell wrote:
>
> I assume IMAP isn't an option? It would be a much better solution.
i disagree. been there, done that, got seriously pissed and
frustrated. :-)
> FWIW, mutt does have POP support.
i never said it didn't; in fact, i think i said i used it
for text-only mail. its failing is
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 01:19:23PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> one big aspect is that i have several *gb* of mail archived in
> netscrape mbox+ format (mbox plus their .snm index file). so
> whatever mua i move to needs to at least be able to handle the
> mbox files
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 02:13:53PM -0500, Mark Komarinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> The only good thing about mutt is if you're going over a ssh link to get
> where you're going (since I only read my work mail from my desktop or via
> the web, a graphical app is no problem). Going to a remote
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 02:14:18PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> example: if i download my pop mail from mutt on system a, and then
> do likewise on system b, the latter is only going to get anything
> new since a's download. in contrast, if the muas in the example
>
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 02:08:06PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Why does the browser need to be tied to the email program?
>
> because of the amount of rich-format mail i receive. bopping
> between application windows sucketh excessively imho.
Evoluti
Derek Martin wrote:
>
> > and lastly, the mua needs to be able to leave pop messages on the
> > server, and keep track of its own pop state and not rely on any
> > notion the server may have about which ones are new and which
> > have already been downloaded.
>
> I wasn't aware that (that is, not
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Why does the browser need to be tied to the email program?
because of the amount of rich-format mail i receive. bopping
between application windows sucketh excessively imho.
> I think you will find your life gets much easier if you
> split the two functions.
tried
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, at 1:19pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> ... so i need to upgrade to some more current integrated browser/mua
> solution ...
Why does the browser need to be tied to the email program? You're really
imposing a huge restriction there. There are tons of web browsers, and tons
of
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