Re: The Debian Flamewar Strikes Back! (was: ARTICLE - ESR gives up on Fedora)

2007-02-27 Thread Star
At this point, the subject line has become something of an in-joke, although I will concede I may be the only one in on it. Oh no! Actually, I should have known better than to be sipping coffee while opening this thread... Ah well, that's why there's a stack of keyboards over there... And

Re: The Debian Flamewar Strikes Back! (was: ARTICLE - ESR gives up on Fedora)

2007-02-27 Thread Tom Buskey
Most people seem to be doing just one distribution. Is anyone else doing multiples? I'm running: Xubuntu on my laptop (I wanted to learn some debianisms) WinXP on the family PC MacOSX on the family Macintosh Fedora on my home server (I grew up w/ RedHat/Mandrake after starting w/

Re: The Debian Flamewar Strikes Back! (was: ARTICLE - ESR gives up on Fedora)

2007-02-27 Thread Thomas Charron
On 2/27/07, Star [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next on the adgenda... Gnome is so much better than KDE because... Oh sure. Ben spends a half an hour crafting 'the perfect intro' to flame city, and what do you respond with? A one liner.. Shoulda known part II would suck. :-) -- -- Thomas

Re: The Debian Flamewar Strikes Back! (was: ARTICLE - ESR gives up on Fedora)

2007-02-27 Thread Drew Van Zandt
Just Debian at home work, and one of the FC's on a webserver... and the FC will go away shortly, I don't have enough knowledge of weird corners to keep it uncrufted under the onslaught of hey I'm installing foo from the guy I was sharing the server with, who's just competent enough to be

Re: The Debian Flamewar Strikes Back! (was: ARTICLE - ESR gives up on Fedora)

2007-02-27 Thread Ben Scott
On 2/27/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most people seem to be doing just one distribution. I just *complain* about one distribution. ;-) I use a bunch of 'em. I still have that Debian install on my main PC at home, tho I'm not using it right now. I've also got FC5 (soon to be

Re: The Debian Flamewar Strikes Back! (was: ARTICLE - ESR gives up on Fedora)

2007-02-27 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Tuesday 27 February 2007 08:59 am, Tom Buskey wrote: Most people seem to be doing just one distribution. Is anyone else doing multiples? Debian Stable on my desktop. Debian Stable on my laptop. Debian Stable on home firewall/router/VPN endpoint. Kubuntu on wife's laptop and Win2K on wife's

Re: The Debian Flamewar Strikes Back! (was: ARTICLE - ESR gives up on Fedora)

2007-02-27 Thread Tom Buskey
On 2/27/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/27/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most people seem to be doing just one distribution. I just *complain* about one distribution. ;-) I use a bunch of 'em. Which means you have a basis for your complaints, having used more then

Re: The Debian Flamewar Strikes Back! (was: ARTICLE - ESR gives up on Fedora)

2007-02-27 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Tuesday 27 February 2007 09:59 am, Ben Scott wrote: LVM (which I use extensively) is really nice for trying multiple distributions. Virtualization (VMware, Xen, etc.) is making that practice obsolete, but at least right now, IME, a VM is still not the same as running something on the

Re: The Debian Flamewar Strikes Back! (was: ARTICLE - ESR gives up on Fedora)

2007-02-27 Thread Travis Roy
OSX On my Macbook (with a WinXP Parallels VM for work stuff) Ubuntu Server on my colo server Ubuntu Server on my home server (file/print) KnoppMyth on my new MythTV box in the basement and a mix of CentOS and Fedora at work I also have an old Dell laptop for a backup that runs WinXP. On Feb

Re: The Debian Flamewar Strikes Back! (was: ARTICLE - ESR gives up on Fedora)

2007-02-27 Thread Ted Roche
On Feb 27, 2007, at 8:59 AM, Tom Buskey wrote: Most people seem to be doing just one distribution. Is anyone else doing multiples? Similar. FC6/Ubuntu LTS/WinXPPro on the primary laptop, OS X Tiger primary desktop, in-house servers running FC version x, CentOS. Commercial servers

Re: The Debian Flamewar Strikes Back! (was: ARTICLE - ESR gives up on Fedora)

2007-02-27 Thread Shawn K. O'Shea
On 2/27/07, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 27, 2007, at 8:59 AM, Tom Buskey wrote: Most people seem to be doing just one distribution. Is anyone else doing multiples? I've run a little bit of everything over the years, and enjoy tinkering with various things. Good for me, since

The Debian Flamewar Strikes Back! (was: ARTICLE - ESR gives up on Fedora)

2007-02-26 Thread Ben Scott
On 2/26/07, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This illustrates 2 of the things I really like about Debian: Oh boy! As it happens, I spent part of the weekend mothballing my installation of Etch (which I've been using for 6+ months) and installing FC6. So this is tapping right into

Re: The Debian Flamewar Strikes Back! (was: ARTICLE - ESR gives up on Fedora)

2007-02-26 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 06:34:36PM -0500, Ben Scott wrote: On 2/26/07, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and they don't make into testing without going through unstable for a while. I thought things only had to be in unstable for seven days, without any issues being filed against

Re: The Debian Flamewar Strikes Back! (was: ARTICLE - ESR gives up on Fedora)

2007-02-26 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Monday 26 February 2007 06:34 pm, Ben Scott wrote: On 2/26/07, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If esr moves to Debian and sticks with stable he won't have *these*[1] problems. You can screw up just about any system, including one running Debian stable He made a point about

Re: The Debian Flamewar Strikes Back! (was: ARTICLE - ESR gives up on Fedora)

2007-02-26 Thread Ben Scott
On 2/26/07, Neil Joseph Schelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does everything have to be a flame war? Your response fits in a flame war, but not his. Actually, my response was more like a desultory, goalless rant (very similar to ESR's original post, in fact). To be a proper flame, I have to