Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-30 Thread Ben Scott
[My apologies for the delay in my response, but circumstances prevented my from giving this a proper reply until now.] On 1/24/06, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been told all sorts of things by all manner of sales reps over the years. I'm sure you have, too. Then when push comes to

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-26 Thread Paul Lussier
Steven W. Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am running with RCN and I really can't complain in the slightest. You're the first person I've heard say *that* about RCN. I get 11Mb/s plus they don't block me from anything. The catch is that the won't block outgoing port 25 and incoming port 80

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-26 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Thursday, Jan 26th 2006 at 08:47 -0500, quoth Paul Lussier: =Steven W. Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: = = I am running with RCN and I really can't complain in the slightest. = =You're the first person I've heard say *that* about RCN. = = I get 11Mb/s plus they don't block me from anything. The

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-24 Thread Fred
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 10:33, Jon maddog Hall wrote: ... So if you want to download music, etc. you can get the lower-cost DSL service. But if you want to run a business and have a web server...you pay. Just a guess, but an educated one. md Just got set up with Fios, and I did call

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-24 Thread Tom Buskey
On 1/24/06, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Stuff deleted. Be that as it may, I am simply floored that Verizon was able to solve thelast mile problem at all. They installed fibre right up to a box in mybasement which converts the telephone and Internet connection to whatever needs to go across that

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-24 Thread Travis Roy
You'll notice that Speakeasy, etc will *never* be over that Fios line. It's not subject to the telecom law that the telephone network is. So they don't have to share it. Just like the cable companies. That's why they did it. But the cable companies allow Earthlink over cable (that's

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-24 Thread Tom Buskey
On 1/24/06, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll notice that Speakeasy, etc will *never* be over that Fios line. It's not subject to the telecom law that the telephone network is.So they don't have to share it.Just like the cable companies.That's why they did it.But the cable companies

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-24 Thread Ben Scott
On 1/24/06, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got set up with Fios ... First, thank you for posting that. The technical details were very interesting, and the commentary on what Verizon said, and the on-site service they delivered, were equally so. I'm frankly amazed to hear Verizon

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-24 Thread Travis Roy
The person at Verizon Fios emphasized that what they meant is installing and running a server class computer at your home. I grilled her specifically about running a website off of a *workstation*, and she indicated to me that that would be perfectly OK, along with FTP, P2P, or anything else us

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-24 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Tuesday, Jan 24th 2006 at 07:12 -0500, quoth Fred: =On Wednesday 18 January 2006 10:33, Jon maddog Hall wrote: =... = So if you want to download music, etc. you can get the lower-cost DSL = service. = = But if you want to run a business and have a web server...you pay. = = Just a guess, but an

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-24 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jan 24, 2006, at 09:23, Ben Scott wrote: Ummm yah. Email. Using encryption on the Internet is the equivalent of arranging an armored car to deliver credit card information from someone living in a cardboard box to someone living on a park bench. -- Gene spaf Spafford So, I

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-24 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 10:51:54AM -0500, Bill McGonigle wrote: On Jan 24, 2006, at 09:23, Ben Scott wrote: Ummm yah. Email. Using encryption on the Internet is the equivalent of arranging an armored car to deliver credit card information from someone living in a cardboard box to

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-24 Thread Drew Van Zandt
So since it's not guaranteed to be 100% secure, there's no reason to bother at all. That's silly. Secure the parts you *can* secure easily, then move on to the next item on the list, and continue securing. Are you 100% secure? No... are you better secured than someone who says it's impossible,

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-24 Thread Ben Scott
On 1/24/06, Drew Van Zandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So since it's not guaranteed to be 100% secure, there's no reason to bother at all. That's silly. That's not the argument. The issue is that if one is concerned about a communication being read by others, one should not use the

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-24 Thread Fred
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 09:23, Ben Scott wrote: On 1/24/06, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got set up with Fios ... First, thank you for posting that. The technical details were very interesting, and the commentary on what Verizon said, and the on-site service they delivered, were

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-24 Thread Sean
Well my service is scheduled to be installed Feb 3rd. Sean ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-24 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jan 24, 2006, at 12:17, Fred wrote: That they do sniffing does not surprise me. That they singled me out in particular, especially since I had that port open for *years* does. Devil's Advocate: they may be using a QoS device that prioritizes traffic by type. You can't do that without