Re: [OT] Windows registry (was: managing applications)

2008-01-13 Thread Ben Scott
[order of quotations changed slightly for editorial purposes] On Jan 10, 2008 10:57 PM, Ric Werme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ben Scott misread my mail and got bent outta shape: I didn't get bent outta shape. (My mind was already twisted. ;-) ) I just listed reasons why I felt my opinion of t

[OT] Windows registry (was: managing applications)

2008-01-10 Thread Ric Werme
Ben Scott misread my mail and got bent outta shape: >On Jan 9, 2008 1:42 AM, Ric Werme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe we could keep everything in a binary database. We'll call it a registry. >>> >>> DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DI-- Er, sorry. Reflex action. >> >> DIE

Re: managing applications

2008-01-09 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Monday, Jan 7th 2008 at 16:31 -, quoth Bill McGonigle: =>OK, another unix operations theory question: => => What's the best way to maintain installs of applications? => =>For instance, take mysql as an average example. For a mysql install, =>I'll have all of the application binaries an

Re: managing applications

2008-01-09 Thread Mark E. Mallett
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 11:26:59AM -0500, Kent Johnson wrote: > Bill McGonigle wrote: > > > cfengine looks like it might be that tool. I'm going to go do some > > reading. Thanks to Tom & Shawn for the pointer! > > You might also look at Puppet which claims "Puppet could be said to be > the

Re: managing applications

2008-01-09 Thread Kent Johnson
Bill McGonigle wrote: > cfengine looks like it might be that tool. I'm going to go do some > reading. Thanks to Tom & Shawn for the pointer! You might also look at Puppet which claims "Puppet could be said to be the next-generation cfengine. The overall design is heavily influenced by cfeng

Re: managing applications

2008-01-09 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jan 7, 2008, at 16:55, Ben Scott wrote: > I honestly think that documentation and discipline are just > essential for this. "You can't comb a hairy ball smooth." If you > carefully document everything you do, recreating it is > straight-forward. If you don't document it, well... you reap

[OT] Windows registry (was: managing applications)

2008-01-09 Thread Ben Scott
On Jan 9, 2008 1:42 AM, Ric Werme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Maybe we could keep everything in a binary database. We'll call it a >>> registry. >> >> DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DI-- Er, sorry. Reflex action. > > DIE is too strong a word. Replace, simplify, constrain are far more >

Re: managing applications

2008-01-08 Thread Ric Werme
> On Jan 7, 2008 4:53 PM, Tom Buskey wrote: > > Maybe we could keep everything in a binary database. We'll call it a > > registry. > > DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DI-- Er, sorry. Reflex action. > -- Ben When I got my Vantage Pro Weather Station, I wrote Python code to connect it to

Re: managing applications

2008-01-08 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Bill McGonigle writes: > OK, another unix operations theory question: > >What's the best way to maintain installs of applications? I know this isn't a magic wand, but I find that if there is some that I really have a lot invested in, I typically document for myself what I did to setup this

Re: managing applications

2008-01-08 Thread Tom Buskey
On Jan 7, 2008 4:58 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 7, 2008 4:53 PM, Tom Buskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe we could keep everything in a binary database. We'll call it a > > registry. > > DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DI-- Er, sorry. Reflex action. I was in a

Re: managing applications

2008-01-07 Thread Shawn O'Shea
On 1/7/08, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, another unix operations theory question: > >What's the best way to maintain installs of applications? This may not be as useful for small scale implementations, but I know of some sites (including other groups here where I work) tha

Re: managing applications

2008-01-07 Thread Ben Scott
On Jan 7, 2008 4:53 PM, Tom Buskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe we could keep everything in a binary database. We'll call it a > registry. DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DI-- Er, sorry. Reflex action. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing lis

Re: managing applications

2008-01-07 Thread Ben Scott
On Jan 7, 2008 4:31 PM, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the best way to maintain installs of applications? Pay somebody else to do it. ;-) >This would be easier if there were /etc/sysconfig/iptables.d/mysql > and /etc/sysctl.d/mysql.conf, but there aren't (yet). Patch

Re: managing applications

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Buskey
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Re: managing applications

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Buskey
On Jan 7, 2008 4:31 PM, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, another unix operations theory question: > > What's the best way to maintain installs of applications? RPM, DEB, Solaris packages. Know the app & it's configuration files. Then you can reinstall from a kickstart/jumpstar

managing applications

2008-01-07 Thread Bill McGonigle
OK, another unix operations theory question: What's the best way to maintain installs of applications? For instance, take mysql as an average example. For a mysql install, I'll have all of the application binaries and support files, but I'll also have, probably, an /etc/my.cnf and entries