Re: moving linux installs

2008-05-18 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Sun, 18 May 2008 15:16:27 -0400 "Bob King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One thing I have found can work is that when the system is first booted > (before I log on) I hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 and log in as root and restart the > wpa_supplicant. > > That usually allows me to log in and have NM connect on

Re: moving linux installs

2008-04-24 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:43:42 -0400 (EDT) "John Abreau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What always drove me nuts about NetworkManager was that when I disabled > it, it wouldn't stay disabled. It would fail to set up the network, > I'd shut it off and configure my network settings by hand, and > every

Re: moving linux installs

2008-04-24 Thread John Abreau
On Thu, April 24, 2008 11:19 am, Ben Scott said: >> ... NetworkManager ... > > NetworkManager is a crock. It happens to work sometimes, maybe even > a lot of the time, but it's still a crock. NM either works > automagically, or it mysteriously fails. When it works, great. When > it fails, t

Re: moving linux installs

2008-04-24 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:19:15 -0400 "Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > NetworkManager is a crock. It happens to work sometimes, maybe even > a lot of the time, but it's still a crock. NM either works > automagically, or it mysteriously fails. When it works, great. When > it fails, there's

Re: moving linux installs

2008-04-24 Thread Thomas Charron
On 4/24/08, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For instance, dynamic reconfiguration of X.org ... > X is kinda rough. I take it the idea of trying to use the > run-without-a-full-config-file/always-probe-the-video-

Re: moving linux installs

2008-04-24 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For instance, dynamic reconfiguration of X.org ... X is kinda rough. I take it the idea of trying to use the run-without-a-full-config-file/always-probe-the-video-card strategy never worked? > ... NetworkManager ...

Re: moving linux installs

2008-04-24 Thread Thomas Charron
On 4/21/08, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Windows NT (2000/XP/...) work a lot more like GRUB. The NTLDR file > is kind of like GRUB's stage2. I'm not sure how the MBR boot block > gets around to loading it. The MBR block loads based on an offset from the start of the partition, loadi

Re: moving linux installs

2008-04-23 Thread Paul Lussier
"Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> initrd needed new drivers ... > > Yah, "rebuild your initrd's ahead of time" is a good thing to know > ahead of time. :-/ Heh, reminds me of the old saying: Good judgemen

Re: moving linux installs

2008-04-21 Thread Ben Scott
Warning: Giant message ahead. If you're of the "TL;DR" persuasion, hit delete now! :-) On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought those were similar enough that grub would be copacetic ... I would have thought so, too. :( > So, I'm not even su

Re: moving linux installs

2008-04-21 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Apr 20, 2008, at 03:01, John Abreau wrote: > The way you describe it makes it sound like you had significant > effort and downtime to get this to work. Was it really much less > than a reinstall/reconfig would have taken? In this case it was a matter of certainty - one of the systems had a

Re: moving linux installs

2008-04-21 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Apr 19, 2008, at 23:05, Ben Scott wrote: > I'm a little confused about what you mean here. I am as well. :P > The GRUB shell (the > GRUB work-a-like that runs under Linux) probes to figure out which > Linux kernel devices correspond to which BIOS devices, so that you can > type "root (hd0

Re: moving linux installs

2008-04-20 Thread John Abreau
The way you describe it makes it sound like you had significant effort and downtime to get this to work. Was it really much less than a reinstall/reconfig would have taken? On Sat, April 19, 2008 1:26 am, Bill McGonigle said: > Wow, so today was a weird day - I wound up moving three servers onto

Re: moving linux installs

2008-04-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When installing Ubuntu, the flash device will be seen as the second > BIOS fixed disk (in GRUB terms, "(hd0)") ... Argh, no, (hd1) is the second BIOS fixed disk. See what I mean about keeping it all straight? -- Ben _

Re: moving linux installs

2008-04-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > initrd needed new drivers ... Yah, "rebuild your initrd's ahead of time" is a good thing to know ahead of time. :-/ > modprobe.conf's needed to be updated to make that happen Really? I haven't done this in awhile

moving linux installs

2008-04-18 Thread Bill McGonigle
Wow, so today was a weird day - I wound up moving three servers onto different hardware, and their configuration was complex enough and the downtime requirements were tight enough and the budget small enough that a re-install and re-configure wasn't in the mix - so it was a 'move the hard d