Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-19 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
2010/10/18 Dimitris Glezos gle...@indifex.com: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Kenneth Nielsen k.nielse...@gmail.com wrote: The solution of having a translations only copy of a module in gnome git, combined with some sort of automatic syncing back and forth, seems to a good solution for the

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-18 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
2010/10/16 daniel g. siegel dgsie...@gnome.org: On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 03:05 +0200, Kenneth Nielsen wrote: 2010/10/15 daniel g. siegel dgsie...@gnome.org: On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote: Hi! As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-18 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
Hallo everyone I think this thread is about reaching the length where we need to make something happen, or nothing will come of it and we are all doomed to repeat the whole thing the next time this issue arises. So lets try and sum up: The solution of having a translations only copy of a module

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-18 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! Then we can afterwards continue discussing whether we should/need to add an offer for a external translation framework that is also GNOME approved (e.g. Transifex, Launchpad ,). Note that Transifex is not an *external* solution as we would host our own Transifex service on GNOME

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-18 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
2010/10/18 Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de: Hi! Then we can afterwards continue discussing whether we should/need to add an offer for a external translation framework that is also GNOME approved (e.g. Transifex, Launchpad ,). Note that Transifex is not an *external* solution as we

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-18 Thread Michael Terry
On 18 October 2010 06:12, Kenneth Nielsen k.nielse...@gmail.com wrote: [snip details] So at this point, can we agree that this can be ONE acceptable solution? Then we could start working setting up the framework for it and actually implement it for the modules that are ok with it. Then we can

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-18 Thread Dimitris Glezos
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Kenneth Nielsen k.nielse...@gmail.com wrote: The solution of having a translations only copy of a module in gnome git, combined with some sort of automatic syncing back and forth, seems to a good solution for the module maintainers that don't mind having this

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-18 Thread Shaun McCance
On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 18:11 +0300, Dimitris Glezos wrote: Now, having said this, I just realized a potential issue with Tx GNOME. Tx 1.0 does NOT support intltool projects which do not have a POT file. More information at the following pages:

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-18 Thread Dimitris Glezos
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 18:11 +0300, Dimitris Glezos wrote: Now, having said this, I just realized a potential issue with Tx GNOME. Tx 1.0 does NOT support intltool projects which do not have a POT file. More information at

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-16 Thread daniel g. siegel
On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 03:05 +0200, Kenneth Nielsen wrote: 2010/10/15 daniel g. siegel dgsie...@gnome.org: On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote: Hi! As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-16 Thread Mișu Moldovan
Kenneth Nielsen k.nielse...@gmail.com a scris: [snip] In the case of clutter core, which I believe was the module that got this discussion started again, Emmanuele said the following: now, how do we go from here to there is probably worth discussing. I cannot move Clutter to gnome.org; it's

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-16 Thread Gil Forcada
El dv 15 de 10 de 2010 a les 13:29 -0500, en/na Diego Escalante Urrelo va escriure: El vie, 15-10-2010 a las 08:29 -0700, Sandy Armstrong escribió: I'm not a fan myself, but I can see how once a project was already hooked on a Launchpad-oriented process, it would be work to migrate to

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 15 octobre 2010, à 17:02 +0200, daniel g. siegel a écrit : On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote: Hi! As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME modules hosted outside of

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-16 Thread Germán Póo-Caamaño
On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 15:53 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Le vendredi 15 octobre 2010, à 17:02 +0200, daniel g. siegel a écrit : On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote: Hi! As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve everything with a single shot.

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME modules hosted outside of git.gnome.org don't always feel comfortable with raw commits to their VCS (security, noise in the vcs history etc). Whether translations should

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread daniel g. siegel
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote: Hi! As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME modules hosted outside of git.gnome.org don't always feel comfortable with raw commits to their VCS

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:02 AM, daniel g. siegel dgsie...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote: Hi! As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME modules hosted outside of

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
El vie, 15-10-2010 a las 08:29 -0700, Sandy Armstrong escribió: I'm not a fan myself, but I can see how once a project was already hooked on a Launchpad-oriented process, it would be work to migrate to GNOME infrastructure. Agree, how could we shorten that difference? I think this is the

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Jeff Schroeder
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 13:29 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: El vie, 15-10-2010 a las 08:29 -0700, Sandy Armstrong escribió: I'm not a fan myself, but I can see how once a project was already hooked on a Launchpad-oriented process, it would be work to migrate to GNOME infrastructure.

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
2010/10/15 daniel g. siegel dgsie...@gnome.org: On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote: Hi! As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME modules hosted outside of git.gnome.org don't always feel

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-12 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
2010/10/10 Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net: Hi, in http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2010-October/msg00060.html the release-team announced its proposal for a reorganisation of the current modulesets. As the release-team aims at a more decentralized approach for modules that

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-12 Thread Sveinn í Felli
Þann þri 12.okt 2010 12:25, skrifaði Kenneth Nielsen: 2010/10/10 Andre Klapperak...@gmx.net: Hi, in http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2010-October/msg00060.html the release-team announced its proposal for a reorganisation of the current modulesets. As the release-team aims at

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-12 Thread Og Maciel
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Kenneth Nielsen k.nielse...@gmail.com wrote: Implementable workflow (3). (A) again is status quo, not much to say about that. Transifex (C) (afaik*) workflow revolves around downloading po-files and working with those.[...] Transifex has a web based

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-12 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! Am Dienstag, den 12.10.2010, 18:30 + schrieb Og Maciel: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Kenneth Nielsen k.nielse...@gmail.com wrote: Implementable workflow (3). (A) again is status quo, not much to say about that. Transifex (C) (afaik*) workflow revolves around downloading

GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-10 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi, in http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2010-October/msg00060.html the release-team announced its proposal for a reorganisation of the current modulesets. As the release-team aims at a more decentralized approach for modules that are not part of the GNOME core there are open