release notes: first draft

2006-03-06 Thread Davyd Madeley
Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and technical correctness. The latest committed version is online at: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/C/index.html You can also check out the release n

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-06 Thread Vincent Noel
Hey David, overall, very nice job, as always :-) Just a couple of comments : * Regarding the speed improvements of the gnome log viewer, it could be good to specify that the launch times mentioned in the article are when loading a 2.9MB log file. Otherwise, it makes the log viewer looks pretty bad

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-06 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 17:40 +0100, Vincent Noel wrote: > * Regarding the speed improvements of the gnome log viewer, it could > be good to specify that the launch times mentioned in the article are > when loading a 2.9MB log file. Otherwise, it makes the log viewer > looks pretty bad in any situat

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-06 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > Addendum: > - If anyone knows the status of the LiveCD, that section requires > updating. As I wrote the other day I ordered a new computer but it hasn't yet arrived. Thus I'll clear up some space on my laptop and start producing the live

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-06 Thread Danilo Šegan
Today at 16:57, Davyd Madeley wrote: > We are using gnome-doc-utils for translation. I hope the translators > know how to get all of that working, because I have no idea. For those who don't: http://live.gnome.org/ReleaseNotes/Translating Cheers, Danilo ___

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-06 Thread Rodrigo M. Fombellida
El lun, 06-03-2006 a las 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley escribió: > Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release > notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and > technical correctness. Hi Davyd I found this little typo: "independant" instead of "indepe

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-06 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 07/03/2006, at 2:27 AM, Davyd Madeley wrote: Warning, I AM AN AUSTRALIAN, SPELLINGS MAY BE CONSIDERED INCORRECT. Or a refreshing return to normalcy... from Clytie, also Australian (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do) http://groups-beta.goog

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-06 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Oops. Forgot to CC lists. On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > > Neat job. > > > In front page: > > "free software" => "Free Software" > > > Users -> Performance: > > "font rendering" => "text rendering" (we did not optimizing the > actual drawing at all, just the text layout...) > > "t

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-07 Thread Edward Hervey
Hi Davyd, Nice work, but I noticed several (typo) mistakes in the GStreamer section. Here is the proposed fixed/updated section with slight rewrites to make it easier to read: """ GNOME 2.14 uses the technology of GStreamer 0.10. The GStreamer multimedia framework is a powerful, pluggable audi

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-07 Thread Tommi Vainikainen
On 2006-03-07T11:34:25+0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > GStreamer 0.10 will also allow users to take advantage of multimedia > plugins distributed by 3rd party vendors to offer support for licensed > codecs for which no legal plugins are available. These may include > support for AC3, WMA, MP3 and

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-07 Thread James Henstridge
Edward Hervey wrote: > revised version 0.3.a-beta-pre25-coma-7: > > "Gstreamer 0.10 will also give users the possibility to use, where >patents apply, multimedia plugins distributed by 3rd party vendors to >offer support for licensed codecs for which no legal plugins are >available." > > Does t

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-07 Thread Luis Villa
On 3/7/06, James Henstridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Edward Hervey wrote: > > > revised version 0.3.a-beta-pre25-coma-7: > > > > "Gstreamer 0.10 will also give users the possibility to use, where > >patents apply, multimedia plugins distributed by 3rd party vendors to > >offer support for lic

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-07 Thread Edward Hervey
Hi, I didn't mention any specific country, nor the whole world I just said "for which no legal plugins are available." which seemed to be the most neutral way of putting it.\ I could go on very long about the quality/benifits of licensed and unlicensed codecs, but I think the strong point here

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-07 Thread Alan Cox
On Maw, 2006-03-07 at 13:44 +, Edward Hervey wrote: > I could go on very long about the quality/benifits of licensed and > unlicensed codecs, but I think the strong point here is that it > *allows* both for everybody's benefits (nothing *forces* you to > download/use them AFAIK). Given the g

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-07 Thread Edward Hervey
Hi Alan :) On 3/7/06, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Maw, 2006-03-07 at 13:44 +, Edward Hervey wrote: > > I could go on very long about the quality/benifits of licensed and > > unlicensed codecs, but I think the strong point here is that it > > *allows* both for everybody's benefit

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-07 Thread Alan Cox
On Maw, 2006-03-07 at 14:50 +, Edward Hervey wrote: > "Gstreamer 0.10 will also give users the possibility to use, where > patents apply, multimedia plugins distributed by 3rd party vendors to > offer support for licensed codecs for which no legal plugins are > available." > > Does that ma

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-07 Thread Alan Cox
On Maw, 2006-03-07 at 16:37 +, Alan Cox wrote: > plugins are not available. The GNOME 2.14 distribution does not itself > contain these non-free components." Actually better yet "contain or endorse" Alan ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnom

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-07 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, > > plugins are not available. The GNOME 2.14 distribution does not itself > > contain these non-free components." > > Actually better yet > > "contain or endorse" I'd be completely fine with this standpoint. However, not everyone in the GNOME community necessarily agrees with this. I got

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-07 Thread Edward Hervey
Hi again, On 3/7/06, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Maw, 2006-03-07 at 14:50 +, Edward Hervey wrote: > > "Gstreamer 0.10 will also give users the possibility to use, where > > patents apply, multimedia plugins distributed by 3rd party vendors to > > offer support for licensed codec

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-08 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 08/03/2006, at 12:14 AM, Edward Hervey wrote: I didn't mention any specific country, nor the whole world I just said "for which no legal plugins are available." which seemed to be the most neutral way of putting it.\ How about "for which no legal plugins may be available"? :) from Clyti

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-08 Thread Alexander Shopov
Regarding the following paragraph: in the file: rndevelopers.xml .. GSlice is very similar to the kernel slab allocator and allows for fast, memory efficent allocation of small .. I presume that kernel would be Linux? (not KRNL386.EXE for example, or Solaris/BSD/MacOS kernel, or just

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 15:11 +0100, Stanislav Brabec wrote: > Thomas Vander Stichele writes: > > > However, not everyone in the GNOME community necessarily agrees with > > this. I got *a lot* of requests to add an mp3 recording profile to > > gnome-media. Historically, I've always refuted these r

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Pedro de Medeiros
On 3/6/06, Davyd Madeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release > notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and > technical correctness. I guess I found one: release-notes.xml:42 "(...) To learn more about GNOME

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Bob Kashani
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 23:30 +0100, Claus Schwarm wrote: > Hi, > > two suggestion if I'm not too late already: > > 1.) The first sentence is too long: Please stop it after "platforms" > otherwise people with low attention will stop reading right there. > 2.) "includes" sounds strange. Why

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Stanislav Brabec
Thomas Vander Stichele writes: > However, not everyone in the GNOME community necessarily agrees with > this. I got *a lot* of requests to add an mp3 recording profile to > gnome-media. Historically, I've always refuted these requests because I > agree that GNOME should not be endorsing them. I

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Jonathon Jongsma
On 3/6/06, Davyd Madeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release > notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and > technical correctness. > In the very first paragraph, change: "GNOME comprises of both a desktop and

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Bob Kashani
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 08:31 -0400, Pedro de Medeiros wrote: > On 3/6/06, Davyd Madeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release > > notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and > > technical correctness. > > > I

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Bob Kashani
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 14:28 -0600, Jonathon Jongsma wrote: > On 3/6/06, Davyd Madeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release > > notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and > > technical correctness. > > > > In

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Claus Schwarm
Hi, two suggestion if I'm not too late already: 1.) The first sentence is too long: Please stop it after "platforms" otherwise people with low attention will stop reading right there. 2.) "includes" sounds strange. Why not just remove it? The paragraph then reads: "GNOME 2.14 is the l

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Bob Kashani
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release > notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and > technical correctness. > > The latest committed version is online at: > http://www.gnome.org

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Danilo Šegan
Hi Bob, Yesterday at 23:41, Bob Kashani wrote: > I like this much better. It flows much nicer too. I made the changes. Also note that if you want translated release notes, you'll have to be much more strict about such changes at this time. We are only 5 days from a release, and there are only

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:27:32AM +0100, Danilo ??egan wrote: > With Gnome 2.12 we were very successful with translation (24 > languages!), but notes were finished two weeks before the release, > and stabilised at least a week before release. I think it looked > really cool on This is basically

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Elijah Newren
On 3/9/06, Davyd Madeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:27:32AM +0100, Danilo ??egan wrote: > > > With Gnome 2.12 we were very successful with translation (24 > > languages!), but notes were finished two weeks before the release, > > and stabilised at least a week before re

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Bob Kashani
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 07:35 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:27:32AM +0100, Danilo ??egan wrote: > > > With Gnome 2.12 we were very successful with translation (24 > > languages!), but notes were finished two weeks before the release, > > and stabilised at least a week befo

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Danilo Šegan
Today at 0:54, Elijah Newren wrote: > On 3/9/06, Davyd Madeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:27:32AM +0100, Danilo ??egan wrote: >> >> > With Gnome 2.12 we were very successful with translation (24 >> > languages!), but notes were finished two weeks before the release, >

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Danilo Šegan
Today at 1:37, Bob Kashani wrote: >> I am going to let Bob and Claus finish up with the editing, but I >> will understand if at GUADEC, any translators want to come up and >> punch me in the face. Not really, if we can negotiate a truce. See below. ;) > In general I think that you've done a real

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 10/03/2006, at 10:05 AM, Davyd Madeley wrote: With Gnome 2.12 we were very successful with translation (24 languages!), but notes were finished two weeks before the release, and stabilised at least a week before release. I think it looked really cool on This is basically my fault for suck

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-10 Thread Shaun McCance
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release > notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and > technical correctness. > > The latest committed version is online at: > http://www.gnome.org

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-10 Thread Bob Kashani
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 14:05 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote: > On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > > Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release > > notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and > > technical correctness. > > > > T

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-10 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 12:32 -0800, Bob Kashani wrote: > On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 14:05 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > > > Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release > > > notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers f

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-10 Thread Bob Kashani
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 14:40 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote: > On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 12:32 -0800, Bob Kashani wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 14:05 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote: > > > On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > > > > Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le lundi 06 mars 2006 à 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley a écrit : > Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release > notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and > technical correctness. > > The latest committed version is online at: > http://www

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-11 Thread Bob Kashani
On Sat, 2006-03-11 at 10:08 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > Hi, > > Le lundi 06 mars 2006 à 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley a écrit : > > Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release > > notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and > > technical correctnes

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-11 Thread Bob Kashani
On Sat, 2006-03-11 at 14:23 -0800, Bob Kashani wrote: > On Sat, 2006-03-11 at 10:08 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Le lundi 06 mars 2006 à 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley a écrit : > > > Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release > > > notes for 2.14. We now requir

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-11 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 03:03:30PM -0800, Bob Kashani wrote: > > We probably should. I have a screenshot of the sound pref. without the > > default sound card entry. But I'm not all that great with using gimp to > > remove the little black bits from the top corners. I'll upload it and > > hopeful

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-14 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 11 mars 2006 à 10:08 +0100, Vincent Untz a écrit : > Hi, > > Le lundi 06 mars 2006 à 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley a écrit : > > Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release > > notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and > > technical corr

Writing the press release for 2.14.0 (was Re: release notes: first draft)

2006-03-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le lundi 06 mars 2006 à 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley a écrit : > - Does anyone want to take charge on writing a press release? I am > willing to raise my hand again if so required. Did anyone start working on it? Any volunteer from the marketing team? Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne

Re: Writing the press release for 2.14.0 (was Re: release notes: first draft)

2006-03-09 Thread Rajiv Vyas
On 3/9/06, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Le lundi 06 mars 2006 à 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley a écrit : > > - Does anyone want to take charge on writing a press release? I am > > willing to raise my hand again if so required. > > Did anyone start working on it? Any volunteer from

Re: Writing the press release for 2.14.0 (was Re: release notes: first draft)

2006-03-10 Thread Corey Burger
On 3/9/06, Rajiv Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/9/06, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Le lundi 06 mars 2006 à 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley a écrit : > > > - Does anyone want to take charge on writing a press release? I am > > > willing to raise my hand again if so req