Re: Terminology (was: Re: Some small ideas for the Shell Panel and Overview)

2011-04-13 Thread Robert Park
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Looking at context, I think you're right - thanks for the catch. My > answer is almost the same, though - I never use that at all, and I agree > with you and John that it seems completely useless. It's always felt to > me like something tha

Re: Terminology (was: Re: Some small ideas for the Shell Panel and Overview)

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 16:28 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > In An Ideal World it could maybe replace menu bars in apps entirely, a > > bit like the 'Office' button in recent MS Office releases, but I don't > > see that happening any time this millennium. > > Since implementing this is a top prior

Re: Terminology (was: Re: Some small ideas for the Shell Panel and Overview)

2011-04-13 Thread Colin Walters
Hi Adam, On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Looking at context, I think you're right - thanks for the catch. My > answer is almost the same, though - I never use that at all, and I agree > with you and John that it seems completely useless. It's always felt to > me like s

Re: Terminology (was: Re: Some small ideas for the Shell Panel and Overview)

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 14:17 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 07:59 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 14:45 +0300, John Stowers wrote: > > > > > In my use of the shell thus far I have *never* used the application > > > menu. Has anyone? > > > > on

Terminology (was: Re: Some small ideas for the Shell Panel and Overview)

2011-04-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 07:59 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 14:45 +0300, John Stowers wrote: > > > In my use of the shell thus far I have *never* used the application > > menu. Has anyone? > > once, when I wanted to test gnome-games and couldn't remember the name > of anyth

Re: Some small ideas for the Shell Panel and Overview

2011-04-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 14:45 +0300, John Stowers wrote: > How does your patch handle the case when the user clicks overview with > no open windows? Same as before - you get a blank overview. It would be good to show "no windows are open" or something. Federico

Re: Some small ideas for the Shell Panel and Overview

2011-04-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 10:08 +0200, Elia Cogodi wrote: Very interesting mail, Elia. You have some very good points. > - Instead of the application grid being triggered by a tab-like > button, it could be a special dash item. Always last, named something > like "all applications" or "more applicat

Re: Some small ideas for the Shell Panel and Overview

2011-04-13 Thread Robert Park
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 14:45 +0300, John Stowers wrote: >> In my use of the shell thus far I have *never* used the application >> menu. Has anyone? > > once, when I wanted to test gnome-games and couldn't remember the name > of anything in i

Re: Some small ideas for the Shell Panel and Overview

2011-04-13 Thread Seif Lotfy
Depends When I am using a desktop my hand is usually on the external mouse. Thus I like clicking around more. So I barely search. However when using the laptop one of m thumbs is always reaching to the mouse when i need it, but since both my hands are o nthe keyboard i just search. Cheers Seif On

Re: Gnome 3: Too much space wasted

2011-04-13 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Calum Benson wrote: > > On 10 Apr 2011, at 17:34, Hoang Le wrote: > >> Gnome 3 is a great leap. I definitely love it: clean, smart and >> recognizable. I really appreciate that >> >> But does anyone notice is that it wastes too much space? To me, all  margins

Re: Some small ideas for the Shell Panel and Overview

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 14:45 +0300, John Stowers wrote: > In my use of the shell thus far I have *never* used the application > menu. Has anyone? once, when I wanted to test gnome-games and couldn't remember the name of anything in it. Otherwise, no, I just search. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Co

Re: Some small ideas for the Shell Panel and Overview

2011-04-13 Thread John Stowers
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 00:28 +0200, Seif Lotfy wrote: > >> I took the liberty to modify GNOME shell in a way I thought would be >> very intuitive to me. While it does introduce some clutter to the top >> panel it does allow quicker a

Re: Gnome 3: Too much space wasted

2011-04-13 Thread Luke Morton
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 18:48 +0100, John Stowers wrote: > > > But does anyone notice is that it wastes too much space? To me, all > > margins seem to be big. As a developer, I would like to have more > > screen space for working or even reading, what I can have with windows > > but haven't had wit

Re: Idea: show potential apps in the search

2011-04-13 Thread Maciej Marcin Piechotka
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 09:07 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote: > One biggest challenges I > have with windows users is getting them over the concept you don't > have to > go to Futureshop or Best Buy to get new software in Linux. > > Michael > Is it still a problem? I'd imagine that saying it is ju