Re: web page with instructions for getting 'gnome 2' experience back

2012-08-08 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Diego Fernandez aiguo.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: [...] I had to spend hours reading up mailing lists, looking up sites... at the time there was no centralized extensions website. I know your pain. However, this is Linux... well, i wonder if it would be less

Re: Design choice for suspend option only

2012-03-02 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: [...] On a Mac, I never ever think of shutting down, I just close the lid and then open up again.  Why?  Because suspend is nearly instantaneous. [...] exactly! very well put - close the lid causes suspend. in the

Re: Design choice for suspend option only

2012-03-02 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: Except those times we need to load a new kernel with new security patches on. If there's installed updates, we should swap the Suspend button with a Restart button. That's the designed behaviour, and I believe

Re: Auto hide, title bar, power off, date

2011-08-23 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Romain Nichel 100domi...@gmail.com wrote: - auto hide the top bar : that's a must. I've got a netbook. Each pixel is useful. I don't need to have this static bar always visible. you have to options here - autohide from

Re: The path of least blame

2011-08-05 Thread Artur Wroblewski
2011/8/5 António Fernandes antoniojpfernan...@gmail.com: [...] Therefore, if the user clicks on the Terminal application icon, he/she can only expect to get the Terminal application. That expectation can be fullfilled either by raising an existing window or creating a new one. but... there are

Re: The path of least blame

2011-08-04 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Florian Müllner fmuell...@gnome.org wrote: Slightly off-topic, but I consider it quite interesting that almost everyone complaining about shell's single-window approach picks the terminal as example. We would probably get rid of all complains by special-casing

Re: getting rid of topbar

2011-07-15 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.org wrote: [...] - Gnome-shell wants to have a coherent design.  Still, it needs to accept that not everyone's needs are equal. It doesn't

Re: getting rid of topbar

2011-07-14 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Artur Wroblewski wrob...@pld-linux.org wrote: Any tips how to simplify the code above? Thanks to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=654518 I have the following code, which works --- const Main = imports.ui.main; function _hidePanel

Re: getting rid of topbar

2011-07-14 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 4:00 AM, Artur Wroblewski wrob...@pld-linux.org [...] What's its other purpose? Why it does not hide whole panel (API (?), i.e. panel._leftCorner suggests that corners are part

Re: getting rid of topbar

2011-07-14 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Artur Wroblewski wrob...@pld-linux.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 4:00 AM, Artur

Re: getting rid of topbar

2011-07-13 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:55 AM, Florian Max florian.muell...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/7/12 Artur Wroblewski wrob...@pld-linux.org On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Florian Müllner fmuell...@gnome.org wrote: It is quite worrying that simple Main.panel.actor.hide is not enough. Why hackery

Re: getting rid of topbar

2011-07-12 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Florian Müllner fmuell...@gnome.org wrote: Hey, 2011/6/2 Artur Wroblewski wrob...@pld-linux.org good point. shouldn't some CSS suffice here, i.e. height: 0px or visibility: none? No, that would only hide the panel background - without doing fancy stuff

Re: Workspaces off the grid

2011-06-13 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Alan Schmitz a...@ankeny.net wrote: [...] Now I'm finding that I'm constantly defining spaces rather than just using them. i have exactly the same problem. [...] If a workspace isn't a place any more, what is it?  I need a new mental image.  What has the

Re: Changing how I work in Gnome 3

2011-06-12 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Julien Olivier jul...@gmail.com wrote: Le dimanche 12 juin 2011 à 01:52 +0100, Artur Wroblewski a écrit : On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Andrew Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: [...] Assume that I have only two OpenOffice.org (OOo) documents open. I can

Re: Changing how I work in Gnome 3

2011-06-11 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Andrew Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: [...] Assume that I have only two OpenOffice.org (OOo) documents open. I can use Alt+Tab to quickly move to OOo, but, I don't see an easy way to jump into a specific document that I see. try to use the key above tab

Re: Gnome 3 vs scientists (ie., external monitor problem)

2011-06-01 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote: [...] R300's aren't found on anything remotely close to recent; but the Intel 945 are still fairly common. But more in netbooks than on anything that I'd consider normal for scientific computing or development. well,

Re: Sensors Extension.

2011-06-01 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Artur Wroblewski wrob...@pld-linux.org wrote: [...] don't get me wrong, i really get your post and understand the need of transition time, but please take into account that people

Re: signal/noise ratio of the list [was Re: gnome-shell-list Digest, Vol 31, Issue 122]

2011-06-01 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Luis Villa l...@tieguy.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Artur Wroblewski wrob...@pld-linux.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Maciej Marcin Piechotka uzytkown...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Both sides uses the same arguments over and over again

Re: getting rid of topbar

2011-06-01 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Patrick Michael Niedzielski patrickniedziel...@gmail.com wrote: On mar, 2011-05-31 at 19:37 +0100, Artur Wroblewski wrote: hi, how to remove the topbar? i am not talking about hiding it. i just want to get rid of topbar as having it in activities mode is more

Re: Gnome 3 vs scientists (ie., external monitor problem)

2011-05-31 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Milan Bouchet-Valat nalimi...@club.fr wrote: Hi! I can't answer on the technical part (hope others will), but I can answer this: Le lundi 30 mai 2011 à 11:20 -0400, Jan Skowron a écrit : Also, if one have learned that his card would not sustain external

Re: Gnome 3 vs scientists (ie., external monitor problem)

2011-05-31 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-05-31 at 14:54, Artur Wroblewski wrote: In the FAQ I have found only a very approximate information which cards are supported. The FAQ entry is more about which drivers have added the needed bug fixes

Re: Sensors Extension.

2011-05-31 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 17:41 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 23:14 +0100, Another Sillyname wrote: There's plenty of space on the top bar to allow them, so what's the logic? Sorry if that was long,

gnome shell, message tray, notifications and empathy

2011-05-29 Thread Artur Wroblewski
hello, i love gnome shell and i started to like empathy... to some extent, but actually the combination of gnome shell, message tray and notifications is very, very frustrating. i agree that there should be idea of user being available and busy for notifications. and probably no one there in the

Re: gnome shell, message tray, notifications and empathy

2011-05-29 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:33:46PM +0100, Artur Wroblewski wrote: i understand that some might find above e-mail too harsh... but please consider frustrated like hell users[1], who find their and others bug reports

Re: gnome shell, message tray, notifications and empathy

2011-05-29 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:14:25PM +0100, Artur Wroblewski wrote: i really appreciate your calm post, but where are the answers to the problems and questions from my original e-mail? we got gnome 3 as a stable release, which