Re: [GNU-linux-libre] PureOS non-free repo

2018-01-20 Thread bill-auger
On 01/20/2018 01:54 PM, Caleb Herbert wrote: > >> So in some ways maybe it could be seen as similar to RPM Fusion? > > That's what I think, and it makes sense that the RPM Fusion method was > accepted, because the FSDG derives from Fedora guidelines. to be clear, the "RPM Fusion method" is acc

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] PureOS non-free repo

2018-01-20 Thread bill-auger
On 01/20/2018 12:34 AM, Jean Louis wrote: > > The question is does the update of the Intel > Management Engine constitute part of the operating > system or not? the FSDG does not make any distinction as to whether or not non-free software in question is part of the OS - the issue is whether or n

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] add uruk gnu/linux

2018-01-20 Thread bill-auger
my first though this morning was to claim a highly coveted GNU-Buck by reporting the purio.sm non-free repos as this does appear to be exactly the same thing that makes debian nonFSDG; but after some thought, i realizedthere is a distinction in that debian exists solely for the purpose of producing

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] PureOS added to endorsed distro list - what about the kernel?

2018-01-20 Thread bill-auger
Alexandre - thanks for that detailed explanation - i have been curious about this myself - i must say though that it did not address what is the actual behavior preventing the debian kernel from being acceptable, which as i understand is not related to its ability to load any modules but simply th

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] [gnu.org #1262331] (inactive Linux distributions)

2018-01-20 Thread Luke Shumaker
On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 21:28:47 -0500, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jan 19, 2018, Caleb Herbert wrote: > > > wouldn't dropping them from the list act as a wake-up call > > to hurry up? > > Maybe that would be too drastic. After all, even if old and > unmaintained, it's still Free Software. Perhaps

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] PureOS non-free repo

2018-01-20 Thread Caleb Herbert
> So in some ways maybe it could be seen as similar to RPM Fusion? That's what I think, and it makes sense that the RPM Fusion method was accepted, because the FSDG derives from Fedora guidelines. By the way, does anybody know where I can see a version-by-version comparison of the Fedora guidel

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] PureOS non-free repo

2018-01-20 Thread Caleb Herbert
The GNU FSDG comes from the Fedora guidelines. If you look at Fedora, you'll see that there is a very clear separation of repositories, because the repos were created independently once some random group of people felt the need for proprietary software. The relationship between distro and repo re

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] PureOS non-free repo

2018-01-20 Thread Félicien Pillot
Le Sat, 20 Jan 2018 14:32:39 +0100, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli a écrit : > It would also be nice to have more FSDG distributions, for instance I > came across Hyperblola[3], which claims to be FSDG compliant. I didn't > find it in the official list of FSDG compliant distributions[4]. Hyperbola is cu

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] PureOS non-free repo

2018-01-20 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 21:16:49 -0800 (PST) "Jason Self" wrote: > Another problematic point seems their statement that "all new laptop > shipments include Meltdown and Spectre patches, as they will have the > latest PureOS image (that includes the Meltdown patch) preloaded" There are Software patches

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] add uruk gnu/linux

2018-01-20 Thread Riley Baird
And, while we're on the topic, I'd like to remind everyone that it's been more than 3 years since LibertyBSD was released. On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 12:45:47 -0800 Ivan Zaigralin wrote: > I think this is a very good idea. I have to confess, we are not feeling very > confident while FreeSlack is stall