Re: [GNU-linux-libre] PureOS added to endorsed distro list - what about the kernel?

2018-01-22 Thread Luke Shumaker
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 10:05:08 -0500, Felipe Sanches wrote: > Regarding devices that rely on non-free fw but that could also work > "without firmware"... I think that most likely does not exist. An example: Many Radeon graphics cards work without firmware, but have no 2D or 3D acceleration. The sim

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] PureOS added to endorsed distro list - what about the kernel?

2018-01-22 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 07:51:44 -0800 (PST) "Jason Self" wrote: > Perhaps a more philosophical question is: *Should* a free program, > especially one used in FSF-endorsed distros, be generating requests > for proprietary programs in the first place? Regardless of how they > might be handled. I find

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] PureOS non-free repo

2018-01-22 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 12:37:53 -0600 Caleb Herbert wrote: > The only issue with Fedora is that Fedora provides documentation on > how to use it. I think there is more than that, such as non-free firmwares. See https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html for more details. Denis. pgpVKDa8_Fyl

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] PureOS non-free repo

2018-01-22 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 06:34:21 +0100 Jean Louis wrote: > Free GNU operating system can be free on one > domain while other domain selling laptops > requiring some proprietary software. > > Then again, such laptop sales shall not be > promoted as having operating system endorsed by > FSF if such is

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] PureOS added to endorsed distro list - what about the kernel?

2018-01-22 Thread Felipe Sanches
Regarding devices that rely on non-free fw but that could also work "without firmware"... I think that most likely does not exist. There are devices that have the fw loaded into RAM and thus require an install at every power up otherwise they will simply not work. But there are also devices that h

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] PureOS non-free repo

2018-01-22 Thread Jean Louis
On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 01:43:11PM +0100, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: > > Intel processors already contain inside Intel > > Management Engine, isn't that modified MINIX > > inside? > [...] > > It means there is no current solution to have Intel > > Management Engine as free software, > [...] > >

[GNU-linux-libre] [gnu.org #1262331] (inactive Linux distributions)

2018-01-22 Thread Therese Godefroy via RT
Le Dim 21 Jan 2018 19:12:11, js...@gnu.org a écrit : > One way is that this ticket can be moved into the licensing queue with > ideas/feedback/suggestions added. Hi Jason, I don't think it's a good idea to dump such a long thread on them. The request would certainly go directly to the bottom of