Re: license question with non-GPL library

2006-08-16 Thread Merijn de Weerd
On 2006-08-16, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am attempting to ascertain my obligations with regards to a software project I am writing. This project is to be licensed under the GPL, but it links to a non-GPL library. This library is licensed under the 'new' BSD license, so it is

Re: license question with non-GPL library

2006-08-16 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Qua, 2006-08-16 às 08:01 +0200, Merijn de Weerd escreveu: Distributors of GPL code are required to make available the full source code of all modules, which would include the library. Please bear in mind that the GNU GPL makes no such requirement as such. The GNU GPL requires you to do that

Re: license question with non-GPL library

2006-08-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Merijn de Weerd wrote: [...] Distributors of GPL code are required to make available the full source code of all modules, All modules constituting a GPL derivative work (or original GPL'd stuff). One must be a total idiot to think that a preexisting BSD library is a derivative work of the

Re: license question with non-GPL library

2006-08-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Qua, 2006-08-16 Ã s 08:01 +0200, Merijn de Weerd escreveu: Distributors of GPL code are required to make available the full source code of all modules, which would include the library. Please bear in mind that the GNU GPL makes no such requirement as

Re: license question with non-GPL library

2006-08-16 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Merijn de Weerd wrote: [...] Distributors of GPL code are required to make available the full source code of all modules, All modules constituting a GPL derivative work (or original GPL'd stuff). One must be a total idiot to think that a

Re: license question with non-GPL library

2006-08-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Piss off, retard dak. Go to doctor. Hey Scott, see http://www.usfca.edu/law/determann/softwarecombinations060403.pdf and also this thread http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.misc.discuss/browse_frm/thread/d861b94b44a742c6 (for relevant excerpts regarding GPL Terminology and Interpretation).

Re: license question with non-GPL library

2006-08-16 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piss off, retard dak. Go to doctor. It seems like I am already doing quite a good job at pissing you off without requiring external input, but thanks for the suggestion. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

Re: license question with non-GPL library

2006-08-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piss off, retard dak. Go to doctor. It seems like I am already doing quite a good job at pissing you off without requiring external input, but thanks for the suggestion. Man oh man, you're really krank. It doesn't

Re: license question with non-GPL library

2006-08-16 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piss off, retard dak. Go to doctor. It seems like I am already doing quite a good job at pissing you off without requiring external input, but thanks for the suggestion.

Re: license question with non-GPL library

2006-08-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
I won't plonk you this time, idiot. Keep embarrassing yourself. MySQL won on trademark portion but lost on the GPL portion (which had nothing to do with trademarks) of its claim for preliminary injunctions. http://pacer.mad.uscourts.gov/dc/opinions/saris/pdf/progress%20software.pdf -- the

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- RMS brownshirts, Bush, and Osama bin Laden

2006-08-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
http://trends.newsforge.com/comments.pl?sid=58048cid=129527 (a comment regarding Torvalds' comments on GPLv3 committees refuted) -- Re:Cutting off nose to spite face (Score:0) By Anonymous Reader on 2006.08.06 12:40 (#129527) It really makes me ill that you RMS brownshirts are so willing to

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- FSF member: If this continues, I will have to reevaluate that commitment.

2006-08-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
http://trends.newsforge.com/comments.pl?sid=57982cid=129724 - Section 3 is not the problem (Score:0) By Anonymous Reader on 2006.08.10 18:47 (#129724) Section 1, paragraph 4 is. This section states that modified versions must be able to hide the fact that they're modified. Read it. Think

Re: license question with non-GPL library

2006-08-16 Thread Stefaan A Eeckels
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:40:28 GMT Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example is cairo or freetype considered a 'system' library, or would I need to redistribute their source as well? Is a link to their webpage sufficient? You can consider the complete GNOME framework (everything that GNOME

Re: license question with non-GPL library

2006-08-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Stefaan A Eeckels wrote: On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:40:28 GMT Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example is cairo or freetype considered a 'system' library, or would I need to redistribute their source as well? Is a link to their webpage sufficient? You can consider the complete GNOME

Re: license question with non-GPL library

2006-08-16 Thread Merijn de Weerd
On 2006-08-16, Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One must be a total idiot to think that a preexisting BSD library is a derivative work of the GPL'd application. Are you a total idiot, Merijn? The idiot is the one who can't read. I said that Your application might be a derivative

Re: license question with non-GPL library

2006-08-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Alexander Terekhov wrote: Merijn de Weerd wrote: [... CONTAINS ***OR*** is DERIVED ...] Hey Merijn, drop an email to Professor Determann. http://www.usfca.edu/law/determann/softwarecombinations060403.pdf and tell him that regarding -- The first sentence of Section 2 of the GPL

Re: license question with non-GPL library

2006-08-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] GPL because the work as a whole has to be licensed under the GPL, Man oh man. Go back to doctor, retard. Try another one. http://www.usfca.edu/law/determann/softwarecombinations060403.pdf -- 2. GPL Terminology and Interpretation a) “Works based on the Program”

Re: license question with non-GPL library

2006-08-16 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Kastrup wrote: [...] GPL because the work as a whole has to be licensed under the GPL, Man oh man. Go back to doctor, retard. Try another one. http://www.usfca.edu/law/determann/softwarecombinations060403.pdf And another long quote

Combining GPL and commercial license

2006-08-16 Thread Marcin Giedz
Hello once again, Thanks Bob for all your suggestions First of all, I've been looking for the most appropriate list for my problem and found this one. If I'm wrong and this list doesn't cover problems like I have really sorry and I'll unsubscribe immediately.* I've been searching/googling

Re: Combining GPL and commercial license

2006-08-16 Thread Merijn de Weerd
On 2006-08-16, Marcin Giedz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been searching/googling web sites to find out one question: is it possible to use GPL software/part of code in commercial application WITH VERY visible caption THIS part comes from and is based on GPL license? What exactly do

Re: Combining GPL and commercial license

2006-08-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Man oh man, yet another schizophrenic. Merijn de Weerd wrote: [...] requires you to acknowledge the presence of GPL software, but also to make available all source code that has been derived *from* the GPL software, if you distribute your software. I just _told_ you this wasn't about what is

Re: Combining GPL and commercial license

2006-08-16 Thread David Kastrup
Marcin Giedz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello once again, Thanks Bob for all your suggestions First of all, I've been looking for the most appropriate list for my problem and found this one. If I'm wrong and this list doesn't cover problems like I have really sorry and I'll unsubscribe

Re: Combining GPL and commercial license

2006-08-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] application WITH VERY visible caption THIS part comes from and is based on GPL license? Only if the work as a whole is licensed under the GPL without further ^ | derivative --+ It means that THIS part comes from and is based

Re: Combining GPL and commercial license

2006-08-16 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Kastrup wrote: [...] application WITH VERY visible caption THIS part comes from and is based on GPL license? Only if the work as a whole is licensed under the GPL without further ^ | derivative --+ It