Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread James Carlson
Drazen Kacar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Nonsense. It protects both Sun and the contributor from being dragged > > to arbitrary third locations to defend themselves. > > Dragged by whom? USA is as arbitrary third location from my point of > view. The whole USA, not just California. And I ce

Re: Linux: GPLv3, DRM, and Exceptions

2006-10-20 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Sáb, 2006-10-21 às 00:05 +0200, Alexander Terekhov escreveu: > Ciaran O'Riordan wrote: > [...] > > If the content of the essay left even you with nothing to complain about, I > > must have hit the mark. > > He he. Chalk that down as whatever, moron. "Complain about" is/was right > below your moron

Re: Linux: GPLv3, DRM, and Exceptions

2006-10-20 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Ciaran O'Riordan wrote: [...] > If the content of the essay left even you with nothing to complain about, I > must have hit the mark. He he. Chalk that down as whatever, moron. "Complain about" is/was right below your moronic drivel available at the posted link. Yeah, of course, "reply didn't meri

Re: PostgreSQL, LGPL and GPL.

2006-10-20 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > Pretty much, but you must provide your software in a form that can be > relinked. Karen Hill writes: > What does that mean? What it says: read the LGPL. If you are dynamically linking you need do nothing special as you are already providing your code in linkable form. You also need no

Re: Linux: GPLv3, DRM, and Exceptions

2006-10-20 Thread Ciaran O'Riordan
Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hey FSFE retard, it's malfunction in your brain, not Tivo-like devices. Wow. I'll chalk that down as a win. If the content of the essay left even you with nothing to complain about, I must have hit the mark. -- Ciarán O'Riordan ___

Re: PostgreSQL, LGPL and GPL.

2006-10-20 Thread Karen Hill
John Hasler wrote: > > Npgsql is LGPL. It means you must release the source of Npgsql when > > distributing it, and if you modify Npgsql, but not have to release the > > source under the (L)GPL of the software that calls Npgsql functions? > > Pretty much, but you must provide your software in a

Re: PostgreSQL, LGPL and GPL.

2006-10-20 Thread John Hasler
Karen Hill writes: > If you make create a PostgreSQL database that uses PostGIS and you > distribute that database, than your database (tables, stored procedures, > views, etc) are GPL? No. > Like wise if you create a client that connects to that database, do they > also become GPL? No. > Does

Re: PostgreSQL, LGPL and GPL.

2006-10-20 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Merijn de Weerd wrote: [...] > If you distribute the PostgreSQL server software linked with > the PostGIS software, then you have to comply with the GPL > for both parts of that derivative work. > > If you don't distribute any server software, you do not have > to worry about what the GPL require

Re: PostgreSQL, LGPL and GPL.

2006-10-20 Thread Merijn de Weerd
On 2006-10-20, Karen Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you make create a PostgreSQL database that uses PostGIS and you > distribute that database, than your database (tables, stored > procedures, views, etc) are GPL? No, because those tables, stored procedures etc. are not derivative works of

PostgreSQL, LGPL and GPL.

2006-10-20 Thread Karen Hill
I was looking through the various contrib packages and pgfoundry projects. I noticed that many of them are GPL like PostGIS or LGPL like Npgsql. I have questions. If you make create a PostgreSQL database that uses PostGIS and you distribute that database, than your database (tables, stored proc

Re: Linux: GPLv3, DRM, and Exceptions

2006-10-20 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Ciaran O'Riordan wrote: > > Devices Rigged to Malfunction Hey FSFE retard, it's malfunction in your brain, not Tivo-like devices. regards, alexander. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread Merijn de Weerd
On 2006-10-20, James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Merijn de Weerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Basically, this says "if Sun ever forgets to credit you, >> or performs something you consider a mutilation of your >> work, you won't sue Sun". > > That's basically true. If such a thing weren

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread John Hasler
Drazen Kacar writes: > USA is as arbitrary third location from my point of view. The whole USA, > not just California. And I certainly don't want to be dragged in any USA > court. "Governed by California law" does not mean "governed by California courts". It just means that whatever court is inter

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread Drazen Kacar
Alexander Terekhov wrote: > > Drazen Kacar wrote: > [...] > > Irish copyright law gives such moral rights to individuals, the said > > rights are not transferable and there's no way to give them up, as > > far as Irish law is concerned. > > http://www.icla.ie/index.php?information > > "Mor

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Drazen Kacar wrote: [...] > Sigh. I asked a lawyer about certain things once, when I needed legal > advice. Two American lawyers, in fact. And they both said, among other > things, "Never give jurisdiction away". And then went on to explain the > reasons. But choice of law is not jurisdiction. Go

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Drazen Kacar wrote: [...] > Irish copyright law gives such moral rights to individuals, the said > rights are not transferable and there's no way to give them up, as > far as Irish law is concerned. http://www.icla.ie/index.php?information "Moral rights may be waived, but a waiver must be in w

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread Drazen Kacar
James Carlson wrote: > Merijn de Weerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Basically, this says "if Sun ever forgets to credit you, > > or performs something you consider a mutilation of your > > work, you won't sue Sun". > > That's basically true. If such a thing weren't there, then other > contr

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread Drazen Kacar
James Carlson wrote: > Drazen Kacar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > James Carlson wrote: > > > > That's void under my local copyright law, > > Perhaps. I'm not a lawyer, nor do I pretend to be one. Particularly > so for the ".hr" domain. Well, the .hr domain has copyright law which is simil

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread Drazen Kacar
Casper H.S Dik wrote: > Drazen Kacar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >Eh? But it says: > > > You agree never to assert against Sun or its licensees or transferees > > any moral rights therein. > > >That's void under my local copyright law, but the provision certainly is > >giving copyright

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread James Carlson
Merijn de Weerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Basically, this says "if Sun ever forgets to credit you, > or performs something you consider a mutilation of your > work, you won't sue Sun". That's basically true. If such a thing weren't there, then other contributors (including both people inside

Linux: GPLv3, DRM, and Exceptions

2006-10-20 Thread Ciaran O'Riordan
Here's something I wrote about GPLv3 and Devices Rigged to Malfunction: http://kerneltrap.org/node/7238 -- Ciarán O'Riordan __ \ http://fsfeurope.org/projects/gplv3 http://ciaran.compsoc.com/ _ \ GPLv3 and other work supported by http://fsfe.org/fellows/ciaran/weblog \