Re: Did I finally figure out the rationale?

2007-06-06 Thread John Hasler
mike3 writes: > MS-EULA takes away certain "fair use" rights like making backup copies > for your own personal use. That is a statutory right, not a fair use right. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA ___ gnu-misc-discus

Re: Did I finally figure out the rationale?

2007-06-06 Thread John Hasler
mike3 writes: > How could I drop them if I'm not the one who made the license? By "drop them" he means ignore them as unenforceable. I would suggest consulting a lawyer first. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA ___ gnu

Re: Did I finally figure out the rationale?

2007-06-06 Thread mike3
On Jun 2, 12:56 pm, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Qua, 2007-05-30 às 20:33 -0700, mike3 escreveu: > > > On May 28, 2:39 pm, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Seg, 2007-05-28 às 12:04 -0700, mike3 escreveu: > > > > > And therefore the GPL is more of a co

Re: Did I finally figure out the rationale?

2007-06-06 Thread mike3
On May 28, 2:39 pm, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seg, 2007-05-28 às 12:04 -0700, mike3 escreveu: > > > And therefore the GPL is more of a copyright license, whereas the MS- > > EULA > > is more of a contract -- since the MS-EULA _takes away_ rights one > > would > > otherwis

Re: Did I finally figure out the rationale?

2007-06-06 Thread mike3
On Jun 2, 1:02 pm, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Qua, 2007-05-30 às 20:35 -0700, mike3 escreveu: > > > > Can anyone tell a single right MS-EULA grants under copyright law which > > > YOU DON'T ALREADY HAVE? I can't see any... > > > And therefore it's NOT a copyright license b

It's all context

2007-06-06 Thread rjack
This is the most damning paragraph for the GPL in all of the Lexmark decision. It should convince even die-hard GPL fans that controlling software process patent rights with a copyright license is not possible. "For like reasons, Judge Feikens is correct that a poem in the abstract could be co

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Linspire: "GPLv3 - Unforseen Consequences?"

2007-06-06 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Qua, 2007-06-06 às 18:50 +0200, Alexander Terekhov escreveu: > More from Carmony: > > http://forum.freespire.org/showpost.php?p=63026&postcount=35 > > -- > We have customers who have switched from Linspire to Novell because > Novell offers patent protection with Microsoft. The FSF has been >

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Linspire: "GPLv3 - Unforseen Consequences?"

2007-06-06 Thread Alexander Terekhov
More from Carmony: http://forum.freespire.org/showpost.php?p=63026&postcount=35 -- We have customers who have switched from Linspire to Novell because Novell offers patent protection with Microsoft. The FSF has been extremely vocal about v3 limiting these types of deals. I know for a fact tha

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Linspire: "GPLv3 - Unforseen Consequences?"

2007-06-06 Thread Alexander Terekhov
http://www.linspire.com/linspire_letter.php -- GPLv3 - Unforseen Consequences? by Kevin Carmony (President & CEO Linspire, Inc.) June 5th, 2007 The FSF (Free Software Foundation) recently released their latest draft of the proposed new GPL license, "v3." In its current form, GPLv3 may uni

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2007-06-06 Thread secretary
To: "Announcements only list for NYCBUG (announcements are not cross-posted to other lists)." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 11:34:07 -0400 From: NYC*BUG Announcements <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [announce] Tonight: NYC*BUG at the Soho Apple Store June 06, 2007 Steven