Re: The GPL means what you want it to mean

2009-04-11 Thread Hadron
RonB writes: > Rahul Dhesi wrote: >> Rjack still hasn't specified which of the terms in the GPL are illegal. >> And he protests: >> >>> Not at all. Try reading my posts instead of denying and lying. >> ... >>> You been told many, many times. Review past posts I've made instead of >>> just denyin

Re: The GPL means what you want it to mean

2009-04-11 Thread Snit
RonB stated in post grrlk7$64...@news.motzarella.org on 4/11/09 8:01 PM: > Rahul Dhesi wrote: >> Rjack still hasn't specified which of the terms in the GPL are illegal. >> And he protests: >> >>> Not at all. Try reading my posts instead of denying and lying. >> ... >>> You been told many, many ti

Re: The GPL means what you want it to mean

2009-04-11 Thread RonB
Rahul Dhesi wrote: Rjack still hasn't specified which of the terms in the GPL are illegal. And he protests: Not at all. Try reading my posts instead of denying and lying. ... You been told many, many times. Review past posts I've made instead of just denying and lying. OK, readers, I need y

Re: The GPL means what you want it to mean

2009-04-11 Thread Rahul Dhesi
Rjack still hasn't specified which of the terms in the GPL are illegal. And he protests: >Not at all. Try reading my posts instead of denying and lying. ... >You been told many, many times. Review past posts I've made instead of >just denying and lying. OK, readers, I need your assistance here.

Re: FSF v. Cisco [first ever NOTICE OF APPEARANCE by the FSF's goons]

2009-04-11 Thread Rjack
Alexander Terekhov wrote: This is getting interesting: (In light of the deadlines, from PACER) - 03/06/2009 8 ENDORSED LETTER: addressed to Judge Paul G. Gardephe from Daniel B. Ravlcher dated 3/6/09 re: Plaintiff requests an adjournment of the pre-trial conference currently scheduled f

Re: The GPL means what you want it to mean

2009-04-11 Thread Rjack
Rahul Dhesi wrote: Rjack made two ludicrious claims. First, that the GPL causes promissory estoppel, and as a result, anybody can copy GPL software as he pleases, with no limitations. You're flat out lying Rahul. I never claimed that. You're a desperate, despicable, deleterious desperado inde

Re: The GPL means what you want it to mean

2009-04-11 Thread Rahul Dhesi
Rjack made two ludicrious claims. First, that the GPL causes promissory estoppel, and as a result, anybody can copy GPL software as he pleases, with no limitations. I will discuss this later. Second, that the GPL, if treated as causing a contract to form, is unenforceable due to illegality. Let's

Re: can't charge for GPL software ..

2009-04-11 Thread Chris Ahlstrom
After takin' a swig o' grog, Doug Mentohl belched out this bit o' wisdom: > Alexander Terekhov wrote: > >> Thus the GPL propagates from user to user and revision to revision: neither >> the original author, nor any creator of a revised or improved version, may >> charge for the software or all

Re: Tom Tom and Microsofts Linux patent lock-down ..

2009-04-11 Thread dr_nikolaus_klepp
Alexander Terekhov wrote: > > Rahul Dhesi wrote: > [...] >> a summary with references in the Wikipedia. You can read the opinion at >> http://www.internetlibrary.com/pdf/Wallace-IBM-7th-Cir.pdf . > > Wikipedia side, here's the summary: > > 1. [FOSS contributors can't charge] "Thus the GPL propa

Re: can't charge for GPL software ..

2009-04-11 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Doug Mentohl wrote: > > Alexander Terekhov wrote: > > > Thus the GPL propagates from user to user and revision to revision: neither > > the original author, nor any creator of a revised or improved version, may > > charge for the software or allow any successor to charge .. > > That is incor

can't charge for GPL software ..

2009-04-11 Thread Doug Mentohl
Alexander Terekhov wrote: Thus the GPL propagates from user to user and revision to revision: neither the original author, nor any creator of a revised or improved version, may charge for the software or allow any successor to charge .. That is incorrect .. "Buy a DVD or CD for 32 or 64 bi

FSF v. Cisco [first ever NOTICE OF APPEARANCE by the FSF's goons]

2009-04-11 Thread Alexander Terekhov
This is getting interesting: (In light of the deadlines, from PACER) - 03/06/2009 8 ENDORSED LETTER: addressed to Judge Paul G. Gardephe from Daniel B. Ravlcher dated 3/6/09 re: Plaintiff requests an adjournment of the pre-trial conference currently scheduled for March 18, 2009, at 11:00 AM,

Re: Tom Tom and Microsofts Linux patent lock-down ..

2009-04-11 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Rahul Dhesi wrote: [...] > a summary with references in the Wikipedia. You can read the opinion at > http://www.internetlibrary.com/pdf/Wallace-IBM-7th-Cir.pdf . Wikipedia side, here's the summary: 1. [FOSS contributors can't charge] "Thus the GPL propagates from user to user and revision to re

Re: The GPL means what you want it to mean

2009-04-11 Thread dr_nikolaus_klepp
Rjack wrote: > Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> Happy pagan fertility rite, RJack! > > . . . whining . . . > . . . more whining . . . > >> Its enforceability is a sensible default assumption. The GPL was >> put together by a competent lawyer, > > I didn't know Richard Stallman was a lawyer. Was that p

Re: The GPL means what you want it to mean

2009-04-11 Thread Rjack
Alan Mackenzie wrote: Happy pagan fertility rite, RJack! . . . whining . . . . . . more whining . . . Its enforceability is a sensible default assumption. The GPL was put together by a competent lawyer, I didn't know Richard Stallman was a lawyer. Was that pseudo-fact also a default assump

Re: The GPL means what you want it to mean

2009-04-11 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Happy pagan fertility rite, RJack! In gnu.misc.discuss Rjack wrote: > Rahul Dhesi wrote: >> If the GPL contains any illegal terms, it should be easy to prove >> this. Just find some statute or case law according to which >> GPL-like permissions are illegal. If you can find none, then >> perha