Re: Why "GNU/Linux" is not accepted: an observation

2019-11-08 Thread Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)
On 2019-11-08 00:29, Marcel wrote: On 11/8/19 3:01 PM, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrote: A typical GNU/Linux distribution include more than just GNU userland on top of Linux. It can be argued that the name GNU/Linux is incomplete and excludes contributions from other sources, the same way

Re: Programmers as users

2019-11-08 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
nipponm...@firemail.cc wrote: > Alexandre François Garreau: >> For those unaware: most mailing software can \u201cfilter\u201d mails so you >> don\u2019t see them, and they end up deleted > > Yea, I'm SURE Free Software Programmers have a TON of problems "Discovering" > that mail clients can FILT

Re: What is ‘OS’? (was: Why "GNU/Linux" is not accepted: an observation)

2019-11-08 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Akira Urushibata wrote: > Subscribers of this mailing list know what an operating system is. Yes, they for sure know. But I would not sure, that they _agree_ on what ‘OS’ is. If we exclude marginal ones (like OS == kernel), I am aware of two consistent definitions of ‘operating system’: 1. O

Re: Is negative publicity always harmful? - I support RMS' past pro-paedo statements

2019-11-08 Thread Jean Louis
* Alexandre François Garreau [2019-11-08 19:14]: > For those unaware: most mailing software can “filter” mails so you don’t see > them, and they end up deleted or as spam [0]. > > To help filtering him, here some mail address he publicly used so far: > , , > (source [1]). > > Also, as he mi

Re: Why GNU/Linux is not accepted: an observation

2019-11-08 Thread Jean Louis
Dear Akira, あなたのメッセージは大歓迎です. Welcome. * Akira Urushibata [2019-11-08 05:27]: > Observing recent events I notice that prejudice is at work. Prejudice > is often invisible and hard to identify. But it does harm to society, > especially when it is widespread. When we sense that prejudice exists

Re: A GNU “social contract”?

2019-11-08 Thread Alexandre François Garreau
Le vendredi 8 novembre 2019, 19:08:02 CET Thompson, David a écrit : > I read [last Brandon’s speculation] a few times, but I am unable to see how this qualifies as "kind communication." Interesting analysis. Could you further develop on why? I don’t see how.

Re: A GNU “social contract”?

2019-11-08 Thread Thompson, David
On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 11:37 AM Brandon Invergo wrote: > > Given that nothing has changed in how GNU is being run, it appears that > the cart is being placed well before the horse. However, I would be > shocked if they didn't already expect rms not to step down and therefore > to reject their Soc

Re: Why "GNU/Linux" is not accepted: an observation

2019-11-08 Thread Alexandre François Garreau
Le vendredi 8 novembre 2019, 09:01:14 CET Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) a écrit : > A typical GNU/Linux distribution include more than just GNU userland > on top of Linux. It can be argued that the name GNU/Linux is incomplete > and excludes contributions from other sources, the same way that > L

Re: A GNU “social contract”?

2019-11-08 Thread Brandon Invergo
Alfred M. Szmidt writes: >Of course, it is no coincidence if you have a déjà vu feeling when >looking at the proposed GNU Social Contract. It is intended as a >base for going forward with the GNU Project, but of course it takes >the existing into account. > > I do not see how it

Re: Will RMS be back to Programming now?

2019-11-08 Thread Ruben Safir
On 11/8/19 2:44 AM, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrote: > On 2019-11-07 22:58, Jean Louis wrote: >> Dear Nala, >> >> Greetings to China. I am eating here with chopsticks... >> >> * Nala Ginrut [2019-11-07 15:03]: >>> >>> Hi Jean! >>> >>> Yes, I totally agreed. And I actually meant RMS's health s

Re: Why "GNU/Linux" is not accepted: an observation

2019-11-08 Thread Marcel
On 11/8/19 3:01 PM, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrote: > A typical GNU/Linux distribution include more than just GNU userland > on top of Linux. It can be argued that the name GNU/Linux is incomplete > and excludes contributions from other sources, the same way that > Linux alone excludes GNU

Re: Why "GNU/Linux" is not accepted: an observation

2019-11-08 Thread Jean Louis
* Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) <936-846-2...@kylheku.com> [2019-11-08 09:02]: > Of course even just a mildly sophisticated computer user knows that > a web browser or text editor isn't part of a single monolithic system > program, even if the pieces are all from Microsoft; users know that > there

Re: Why "GNU/Linux" is not accepted: an observation

2019-11-08 Thread Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)
On 2019-11-07 14:36, Akira Urushibata wrote: The ordinary computer user who has been educated through Microsoft's marketing propaganda is likely to see the operating system as one entity. Note that the ordinary computer user of some BSD Unix variant also been thus "indoctrinated". The user spac