aviva writes:
> On 3/14/21 6:18 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
>> If WebAssembly or Javascript can be used in a
>> way that honors the four freedoms,
>
> But it can't...period. And in the real world , it doesn't. We don't
> promote software that hurts peopleperiod.
It can and it does, and I showed
aviva writes:
> On 3/14/21 6:18 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
>> Thus, in a way you are arguing AGAINST the
>> user's freedom.
>
> No - I am arguing against creating a system where you lose control of
> your computer and it is over run by hackers because of poor deisgn.
> NOTHING can excuse that,
GCC ha
aviva writes:
> On 3/14/21 6:18 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
>> This application totally honors the four freedoms,
>
> No - it doesn't actually. It fails value one that the user is in
> control of there system.
How so? I downloaded the sources and ran them on my own system. How am
I not in control?
>>> technology which is designed to be slaveware and dependent un insecure
>> This is a value judgement
>
>
> Right, being a slave is bad. That IS a value judgement. Values - that
> those are good. Get some!
Since you insist on misinterpreting, let me clarify.
The value judgement is that the
On 3/14/21 6:18 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
> Discouraging the
> technology itself is, IMHO, outside the FSF's scope.
Your opinion has been heard and its been explained already to you that
it is wrong.
On 3/14/21 6:18 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
> If WebAssembly or Javascript can be used in a
> way that honors the four freedoms,
But it can't...period. And in the real world , it doesn't. We don't
promote software that hurts peopleperiod.
On 3/14/21 6:18 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
> Thus, in a way you are arguing AGAINST the
> user's freedom.
No - I am arguing against creating a system where you lose control of
your computer and it is over run by hackers because of poor deisgn.
NOTHING can excuse that,
On 3/14/21 6:18 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
> This application totally honors the four freedoms,
No - it doesn't actually. It fails value one that the user is in
control of there system.
On 3/14/21 6:18 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
> shulie writes:
>> technology which is designed to be slaveware and dependent un insecure
> This is a value judgement
Right, being a slave is bad. That IS a value judgement. Values - that
those are good. Get some!
On 3/14/21 6:47 PM, Colby Russell wrote:
>
> The problems inherent to traditional web apps are neither here nor
> there.
that is wrong.
On 3/14/21 6:47 PM, Colby Russell wrote:
>>
> You have your thumb on the scale. The context is a copy of the GNU
> operating system built to run on the platform that is universally
> available to essentially everyone in the world without even trying:
we have that anyway. What this offers is a
On 3/14/21 1:25 PM, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
The same is absolutley not true for Javascript or Webassembly, it is
nigh impossible to download the full set of scripts and other code to
run it locally.
You have your thumb on the scale. The context is a copy of the GNU
operating system built to run
shulie writes:
> technology which is designed to be slaveware and dependent un insecure
This is a value judgement on the developer writing the software, not the
technology of the software itself. Please do not confuse the two.
For example, I regularly use a javascript application that is served
On 3/11/21 1:42 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
> Everything I've suggested so far complies with the wording and spirit of
> the GPL, and is fully under the user's control.
no it doesn't, and the user is not in control.
On 3/11/21 3:47 PM, Colby Russell wrote:
>
> (If there were any serious introspection into the issue on the matter of
> philosophy, those complaining about WebAssembly would not just agree
> with you that it's a compilation target like x86_64 ELF binaries, but
> that WASM and JavaScript can be wiel
On 3/11/21 9:33 PM, Jean Louis wrote:
> In my opinion question is if that all is free software. Not if it runs
> remotely.
No, software design matters and its not running remotely. It is running
locally in javascript which is imported from a remote location with no
control. It is a security nigh
While a cryptocurrency such as Bitcoin has no middleman that takes some of the
profits in a transaction, some amount that you pay (which is often quite
expensive these days) is a fee that goes to paying people who are supporting
the network by mining.
With blockchain tech, one of the biggest th
Taylan Kammer wrote:
On 06.03.2021 22:30, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote:
In times like that, I wish I had quick
access to some Unix-like environment with helpful tools like netcat and
nmap on the client's end.
If I could just open a browser on the client's PC and visit a website
that boots up a GNU/
> On 14. Mar 2021, at 19:25, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
>
> The same is true for JS/Webassembly. In fact, one could argue that this
> is a significant part of the value offering (offline use of the web
> application).
> You can copy the whole site offline and continue using it.
> Yes, the
The same is true for JS/Webassembly. In fact, one could argue that this
is a significant part of the value offering (offline use of the web
application).
You can copy the whole site offline and continue using it.
Yes, there MAY be interaction with a REST API, but that is a completely
As mentioned having GNU tools available on machines you do not have
control over (i.e. your friends machine) makes this infinitely
valuable IMO.
That is to vauge of a statement to make any general claim, what does
"available" mean here? Download the source? Or execute random
blobware fro
> On 14. Mar 2021, at 12:57, Schanzenbach, Martin
> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 13. Mar 2021, at 16:48, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like multi-user UNIX-like system, or modern GNU/Linux
>> multi-user system.
>>
>> On a multi-user system you can keep your own files in our home
>> directo
> On 13. Mar 2021, at 16:48, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
>
> Sounds like multi-user UNIX-like system, or modern GNU/Linux
> multi-user system.
>
> On a multi-user system you can keep your own files in our home
> directory. You can decide to copy a program you like from one
> location to your
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