In article ,
Hyman Rosen wrote:
> ZnU wrote:
> > Can you really just read the source code to figure out
> > that file format, and then go write your app?
>
> Yes, you can, without incurring any copyright obligations from
> the existing program. The program you
In article , Alan Mackenzie
wrote:
[snip]
> Eh? What's that got to do with anything? It just means you're free to
> crack a program restricted by "technological measures" to discern its
> external data formats and interfaces, so that you can build a compatible
> program. That's irrelevant fo
In article <4995ce3f.2eacf...@web.de>,
Alexander Terekhov wrote:
> ZnU wrote:
> >
> > In article <4995aee4.ab5bf...@web.de>,
> > Alexander Terekhov wrote:
> >
> > > Hyman Rosen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Alexander Terek
In article <4995aee4.ab5bf...@web.de>,
Alexander Terekhov wrote:
> Hyman Rosen wrote:
> >
> > Alexander Terekhov wrote:
> > > Hyman Rosen wrote:
> > > [... Verizon webserver transmitting from an Actiontec site ...]
> > > And how that would make Verizon any less a distributor of that content
> >
In article ,
Hyman Rosen wrote:
> Rjack wrote:
> > Anyone who conveys copies of covered works is not bound by
> > the GPL's voidable terms and has a perfect defense of estoppel.
>
> You're welcome to try this. How about making a version of GCC with
> a proprietary addition? Be sure to let us kn
In article <4981ff85$0$21795$ec3e2...@news.usenetmonster.com>,
"amicus_curious" wrote:
> "ZnU" wrote in message
> news:znu-8e1e21.12513029012...@news.individual.net...
> > In article <4981a3de$0$21807$ec3e2...@news.usenetmonster.com>,
> >
In article ,
JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2009-01-30, ZnU wrote:
> > In article <85bptp20ty@lola.goethe.zz>, David Kastrup
> > wrote:
> >
> >> ZnU writes:
> > My entire point is that there's essentially no case law on this
> > issue. Wha
In article <85bptp20ty@lola.goethe.zz>, David Kastrup
wrote:
> ZnU writes:
>
> > In article <8563jzm30h@lola.goethe.zz>, David Kastrup
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Uh no. If a provision of the kind "you may freely redistribute if
> >&
In article <857i4d20h7@lola.goethe.zz>, David Kastrup
wrote:
> ZnU writes:
>
> > I understand that the FSF is really, really hung up on every detail
> > of the GPL, but frankly, they're fanatics.
>
> Fanatics have copyright like everybody else.
Sur
In article <4981a3de$0$21807$ec3e2...@news.usenetmonster.com>,
"amicus_curious" wrote:
> "ZnU" wrote in message
> news:znu-d89e5d.21301628012...@news.individual.net...
> > In article <4980ee5f$0$21796$ec3e2...@news.usenetmonster.com>,
> > &
In article <4981ac14.7050...@mail.com>, Hyman Rosen
wrote:
> ZnU wrote:
> > If we're talking about Party A redistributing Party B's unmodified GPL'd
> > work without making the source available, this may be true. But this is
> > trivial, since the sou
In article <4980da74$0$21786$ec3e2...@news.usenetmonster.com>,
"amicus_curious" wrote:
> "Hyman Rosen" wrote in message
> news:ib5gl.3473$jd4.1...@newsfe02.iad...
> > Rjack wrote:
> >> The evidence of record, a voluntary dismissal WITH PREJUDICE
> >> against Verizon is beloved by GPL opponent
In article ,
Hyman Rosen wrote:
> David Kastrup wrote:
> > Since when? If I send a personal letter to someone, I don't charge a
> > fee for it. He still is not authorized for redistributing my letter or
> > using its content in publications of his.
>
> This is the usual argument of the "GPL i
In article <4980ee5f$0$21796$ec3e2...@news.usenetmonster.com>,
"amicus_curious" wrote:
> "ZnU" wrote in message
> news:znu-726d9d.18135228012...@news.individual.net...
> > In article <4980a453$0$21838$ec3e2...@news.usenetmonster.com>,
> >
In article <8563jzm30h@lola.goethe.zz>, David Kastrup
wrote:
> ZnU writes:
>
> > In article <85bptrnsam@lola.goethe.zz>, David Kastrup
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Rjack writes:
> >>
> >> > Hyman Rosen wrote:
> >>
In article <4980a453$0$21838$ec3e2...@news.usenetmonster.com>,
"amicus_curious" wrote:
> "David Kastrup" wrote in message
> news:85bptrnsam@lola.goethe.zz...
>
> >
> > The recipient of GPLed software is free to declare the GPL void and
> > revert to default copyright rules.
> >
> What is
In article <497dee06$0$1934$ec3e2...@news.usenetmonster.com>,
"amicus_curious" wrote:
> "Hyman Rosen" wrote in message
> news:rimfl.9$8...@newsfe06.iad...
> > amicus_curious wrote:
> >> Can you seriously believe that another office suite or graphics
> > > package or OS platform can make any he
In article <85bptrnsam@lola.goethe.zz>, David Kastrup
wrote:
> Rjack writes:
>
> > Hyman Rosen wrote:
> >> Rjack wrote:
> >>> It is a verifiable fact that ever completed suit filed by the SFLC
> >>> was terminated by the plaintiff's voluntary dismissal. Just show us
> >>> the legal documen
In article ,
JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2009-01-25, ZnU wrote:
> > In article ,
> > Rjack wrote:
> >
> >> With the advent of the Obama administration, it is generally
> >> expected that the Justice Department and the FTC will become much
> >>
In article ,
JEDIDIAH wrote:
[snip]
> Linux is in wide use so no one has to worry about it "going anywhere".
> Furthermore, success in some non-desktop market might "spill over". This
> has already happened with one very prominent example:
>
> Apple
>
> The success of Apple in
In article ,
Robert Heller wrote:
> At 26 Jan 2009 00:32:24 GMT Rockinghorse Winner
> wrote:
>
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Rjack had the audacity to say that:
> >
> > > Rjack wrote:
> > >
> > > From the findings of fact in US v. Microsoft (1998)
> > >
> > > http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/
In article ,
The Lost Packet wrote:
> Rjack wrote:
> > Rjack wrote:
> >
> > From the findings of fact in US v. Microsoft (1998)
> >
> > http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/f3800/msjudgex.htm
> >
> >
> > Open-Source Applications Deve
In article ,
Rjack wrote:
> With the advent of the Obama administration, it is generally
> expected that the Justice Department and the FTC will become much
> more aggressive in antitrust enforcement matters.
>
> With Microsoft's OS share hovering around 90%,
>
> http://marketshare.hitslink.co
In article <85wsd5nzaq@lola.goethe.zz>, David Kastrup
wrote:
> ZnU writes:
>
> > In article <85r63dpho3@lola.goethe.zz>, David Kastrup
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> To have the GPL evaluated on "its merits", the defendant has to sta
In article <85r63dpho3@lola.goethe.zz>, David Kastrup
wrote:
> Rjack writes:
>
> > Hyman Rosen wrote:
> >>> "The answer, I suspect, is that the Free Software Foundation is not
> >>> accepting compliance with the GPL as a solution. It wants more. It
> >>> wants to push Cisco around and it w
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