Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-29 Thread Hyman Rosen
Florian Weimer wrote: How has the GPL helped to create more free software > in this case? It hasn't. But just as in any other case of copyright infringement, the authors have the exclusive right to control copying and distribution, and can demand that infringement be brought to a halt. Authors

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-28 Thread Rjack
John Hasler wrote: Rui Maciel writes: What exactly do you perceive to be a loss? According to Rjack you lose unless you go to trial and get a favorable judgement. Thus by his standard both sides lose almost every suit filed in the USA. Even when one side pays the other tens of millions of

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-28 Thread Rui Maciel
John Hasler wrote: > According to Rjack you lose unless you go to trial and get a favorable > judgement. That's an odd point of view. Rui Maciel ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-mis

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-28 Thread Rui Maciel
Florian Weimer wrote: > How has the GPL helped to create more free software in this case? I don't believe that when a certain software package is made available under the GPL it's purpose is to "create more free software". It's purpose is to keep the released software free, no matter who redis

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-28 Thread Rui Maciel
Rjack wrote: > Losing eight in a row could only be spuun into a > victory by a dedicated true, blue, GNU Freetard. What exactly do you perceive to be a loss? Rui Maciel ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org ht

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-28 Thread John Hasler
Rui Maciel writes: > What exactly do you perceive to be a loss? According to Rjack you lose unless you go to trial and get a favorable judgement. Thus by his standard both sides lose almost every suit filed in the USA. Even when one side pays the other tens of millions of dollars. -- John Hasle

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-27 Thread Florian Weimer
* Hyman Rosen: > Why is that funny? That's how settlements work. No one > acknowledges any guilt because that could come back to > haunt them later. How has the GPL helped to create more free software in this case? ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-25 Thread Hyman Rosen
Rjack wrote: GPL plaintiffs paying their defendants certain penalty fees doesn't sound like a victory to me. That's true. Good thing it hasn't happened. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/g

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-25 Thread Rjack
Hyman Rosen wrote: Rjack wrote: Losing eight in a row could only be spuun into a victory by a dedicated true, blue, GNU Freetard. In every case, the distributors made the GLPed sources properly available or discontinued distribution and oaid penalties. The only way this cou

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-25 Thread Hyman Rosen
Rjack wrote: It's not precisely a legal victory. Truly spoken... it's just like seven other GPL cases I can think of. Proving once again that it is so obvious to corporate lawyers that the GPL works as intended that they will never stand against it.

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-25 Thread Rjack
Hyman Rosen wrote: Rjack wrote: It's not precisely a legal victory. Truly spoken... it's just like seven other GPL cases I can think of. Proving once again that it is so obvious to corporate lawyers that the GPL works as intended that they will never stand against it. Losing eight in a row

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-25 Thread Hyman Rosen
Rjack wrote: Losing eight in a row could only be spuun into a victory by a dedicated true, blue, GNU Freetard. In every case, the distributors made the GLPed sources properly available or discontinued distribution and oaid penalties. The only way this could be spun into a lo

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-25 Thread Rjack
Alexander Terekhov wrote: http://www.h-online.com/open/Atari-settle-over-ScummVM-based-Wii-game-GPL-violations--/news/113609 The ScummVM developers contacted gpl-violations.org and sent a letter to Atari. The Atari lawyers responded, first denying the problem, then, after discovering that the

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-25 Thread Rjack
Hyman Rosen wrote: Rjack wrote: It is amazing how warped Freetards minds are when it comes to imagining GPL "legal" victories. It's not precisely a legal victory. It's merely putting a stop to a copyright infringement. Anyone who is neither blind nor an idiot understands that "... the Ninten

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-25 Thread Hyman Rosen
Rjack wrote: It is amazing how warped Freetards minds are when it comes to imagining GPL "legal" victories. It's not precisely a legal victory. It's merely putting a stop to a copyright infringement. Anyone who is neither blind nor an idiot understands that "... the Nintendo Wii SDK explicitl

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-25 Thread Hyman Rosen
David Kastrup wrote: The GPL does not claim to work in any way. > It is a license, not a proclamation. Um, have you *read* its preamble? ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-25 Thread Hyman Rosen
Alexander Terekhov wrote: Mistic Software Inc. responded by denying that members of the ScummVM team hold any rights to the particular code they used. The dispute was ultimately settled in May 2009 by Mistic Software Inc. paying all legal fees and making a donation to the Free Software Foundation

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-25 Thread Alexander Terekhov
http://www.h-online.com/open/Atari-settle-over-ScummVM-based-Wii-game-GPL-violations--/news/113609 -- Atari settle over ScummVM based Wii game GPL violations The ScummVM developers have agreed a settlement with Atari over GPL violations in three Nintendo Wii games developed by an Atari subcon

Re: Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-25 Thread David Kastrup
Hyman Rosen writes: > This time, by the vendor withdrawing the product: > > > A Wii game manufactured by subcontractors for Atari contains a > GPLed game engine, the game was distributed without complying > with the GPL, and

Another GPL violation settled

2009-06-24 Thread Hyman Rosen
This time, by the vendor withdrawing the product: A Wii game manufactured by subcontractors for Atari contains a GPLed game engine, the game was distributed without complying with the GPL, and apparently Nintendo requires a n