Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] > > The legally unsound bit was about the FSF "position" regarding > > dynamic linking. > > Which is not codified in either license since Read the latest draft, moron. regards, alexander. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list g

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ciaran O'Riordan wrote: > [...] >> Dan's blog entry quoted a lawyer who's being consulted during the draftign >> of GPLv3 who said that parts of GPLv3 aren't legally sound. > > He said that GPLv3 draft is even worse than GPLv2 which nobody > unde

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > First sale, moron. Wanna have a copy of Emacs (modified)under draconian > EULA-style contract imposing forbearance from rights granted to "users" > under the GPL and without an offer to obtain source code? Ten EUROs. You are drunk enough as it is

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread Alexander Terekhov
First sale, moron. Wanna have a copy of Emacs (modified)under draconian EULA-style contract imposing forbearance from rights granted to "users" under the GPL and without an offer to obtain source code? Ten EUROs. regards, alexander. ___ gnu-misc-discus

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Go to doctor, mini-RMS. regards, alexander. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Ciaran O'Riordan wrote: [...] > Dan's blog entry quoted a lawyer who's being consulted during the draftign > of GPLv3 who said that parts of GPLv3 aren't legally sound. He said that GPLv3 draft is even worse than GPLv2 which nobody understands. The legally unsound bit was about the FSF "positi

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Kastrup wrote: > [...] >> intended by the licensor: yes, the copyright holder has the "control" > > There are limitations, such as free (of copyright control) distribution > of copies lawfully made and free (of copyright control) modification

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] > intended by the licensor: yes, the copyright holder has the "control" There are limitations, such as free (of copyright control) distribution of copies lawfully made and free (of copyright control) modification, copying, and distribution of those additional exact co

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > David Kastrup wrote: >> > [...] >> >> benefitting the general public >> > >> > Hey dak, care to address the following (2nd one below) Dan's comment >> > regarding th

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Qui, 2006-10-19 às 14:31 +0200, Alexander Terekhov escreveu: > > The FSF does not even "control" ... > > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt > > "the intent is to ... control the distribution of derivative or > collective works based on the Program." > > eh? How very manipulative of you. A pity

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread Ciaran O'Riordan
Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://floatingpoint.wordpress.com/2006/10/16/off-the-record/#comments > > -- > Dan Lyons // Oct 17th 2006 at 7:52 am > > Translation: Nothing to worry about here, folks. Just move along, Dan is replying there to a comment I posted. Dan's

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: > > Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > David Kastrup wrote: > > [...] > >> benefitting the general public > > > > Hey dak, care to address the following (2nd one below) Dan's comment > > regarding the "public"? > > Just a rant, and obviously so. http://

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Kastrup wrote: > [...] >> benefitting the general public > > Hey dak, care to address the following (2nd one below) Dan's comment > regarding the "public"? Just a rant, and obviously so. The FSF does not even "control" further development

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-19 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] > benefitting the general public Hey dak, care to address the following (2nd one below) Dan's comment regarding the "public"? http://floatingpoint.wordpress.com/2006/10/16/an-open-source-ceo-on-the-gplv3/#comments -- Crosbie Fitch // Oct 18th 2006 at 4:03

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-18 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Kastrup wrote: > [...] >> I am not getting paid for the voluntary work I do within the GNU >> project, which is neither my job nor part of my job description. The > > And what is your "job description"? I'm just curious: once and for > all, a

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-18 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] > I am not getting paid for the voluntary work I do within the GNU > project, which is neither my job nor part of my job description. The And what is your "job description"? I'm just curious: once and for all, are you employed or not, dak? Or may be you're a lucky dot-

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-18 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Kastrup wrote: > [...] >> Uh, why should he? The law is his profession. Since when should a >> person not get paid for doing his job? > > Are you getting paid for doing your GNU job? I am not getting paid for the voluntary work I do within

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-18 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] > Uh, why should he? The law is his profession. Since when should a > person not get paid for doing his job? Are you getting paid for doing your GNU job? Your comrade ams seems to be on public support. http://www.update.uu.se/~ams/home/resume - Work Status: un

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-18 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hey dak, both fellows have really good appetite (they should really try > to eat a bit less). RMS is not exactly known for a luxurious life style. > And speaking of Eben, > > http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1139911511108 > (Meet the DotComm

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-18 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Hey dak, both fellows have really good appetite (they should really try to eat a bit less). And speaking of Eben, http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1139911511108 (Meet the DotCommunist) - Moglen puts it more simply: "I know how to hook up people who have money with the people who have p

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-18 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dan Lyons reports: > > http://floatingpoint.wordpress.com/2006/10/17/bruce-perens-on-gplv3/ > > -- > While we’re on the subject of the “price” of “free” software (a notion > that may seem paradoxical to some), a while back I had a chance to spea

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Bruce Perens and world table

2006-10-18 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Dan Lyons reports: http://floatingpoint.wordpress.com/2006/10/17/bruce-perens-on-gplv3/ -- While we’re on the subject of the “price” of “free” software (a notion that may seem paradoxical to some), a while back I had a chance to speak with Bruce Perens, a well-known free software advocate, ab