Re: Will The Hurd Trample The Penguin ?!?

2005-07-22 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
And, so, in theory, could all this OSX code be copied into GNU/Linux and used there at no cost? If it is gratis or not is not important, what is important is if it is free software. ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http:

Re: Will The Hurd Trample The Penguin ?!?

2005-07-22 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
therefore owned by Carnegie Mellon University. Mach isn't owned by CMU either. The _copyright_holder_ is CMU. ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss

Re: Will The Hurd Trample The Penguin ?!?

2005-07-22 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
>>> The Hurd developers concluded, as did many others before them, >>> that Mach's performance and stability was insufficient. We haven't concluded any such thing. Nor has anyone before us concluded any such thing. Mach is owned by GNU ( or licensed under GPL ). You cannot own software

Re: Will The Hurd Trample The Penguin ?!?

2005-07-15 Thread Christopher Browne
> Anyway, the original CMU license reads differently and can be found at > http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/gnumach-doc/mach_13.html#SEC109>. > So it would appear that not all versions of Mach were licensed alike. And _that's_ the really important point. Mach has been made available under various

Re: Will The Hurd Trample The Penguin ?!?

2005-07-15 Thread Christopher Browne
> Rick wrote: > >> On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:09:04 -0700, John Bailo wrote: >> >>> Ku Karlovsky wrote: >>> >>> The Hurd developers concluded, as did many others before them, that Mach's performance and stability was insufficient. OS/X's kernel is a monolithic kernel based on a rewri

Re: Will The Hurd Trample The Penguin ?!?

2005-07-15 Thread David Kastrup
John Bailo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Kastrup wrote: > >> A license is something that comes with every copy. Whether or not the >> copies the FSF distributes come under GPL does not influence the >> license of other copies. > > According to the Mach license: > > http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/a

Re: Will The Hurd Trample The Penguin ?!?

2005-07-15 Thread John Bailo
amosf wrote: > I thought the os/x kernel was open source, at least parts of it? ie darwin > 8.2 (core for os/x 10.4.2) So Darwin = Open Source code for OS/X ? Their page is a little confusing to me. Is it the whole OS or just the GUI? http://developer.apple.com/darwin/ And, so, in theory, c

Re: Will The Hurd Trample The Penguin ?!?

2005-07-15 Thread John Bailo
David Kastrup wrote: > A license is something that comes with every copy. Whether or not the > copies the FSF distributes come under GPL does not influence the > license of other copies. According to the Mach license: http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/mach/public/FAQ/license.info " 2. I

Re: Will The Hurd Trample The Penguin ?!?

2005-07-15 Thread Rui Miguel Seabra
On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 01:49 -0700, John Bailo wrote: > >> So shouldn't OSX be licensed under GPL then? > > > > BSD. And much if it is. > > I still don't understand. > > Mach is owned by GNU ( or licensed under GPL ). > > If OSX is based -- or includes -- Mach code, then doesn't that GPL OSX? W

Re: Will The Hurd Trample The Penguin ?!?

2005-07-15 Thread John Bailo
Rick wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:09:04 -0700, John Bailo wrote: > >> Ku Karlovsky wrote: >> >> >>> The Hurd developers concluded, as did many others before them, that >>> Mach's performance and stability was insufficient. OS/X's kernel is a >>> monolithic kernel based on a rewritten Mach m