Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated

2019-10-31 Thread Florian Weimer
* Alfred M. Szmidt: >> I placed the list on moderation to help with cooling down heated >> discussions. It is entirely within the normal bounds of list >> management to use moderation. > >It's actually very unusual to see this on technical/FOSS lists. Some >communities have se

Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated

2019-10-31 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
> I placed the list on moderation to help with cooling down heated > discussions. It is entirely within the normal bounds of list > management to use moderation. It's actually very unusual to see this on technical/FOSS lists. Some communities have secret and not-so-secret bans for

Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated

2019-10-30 Thread Jean Louis
* DJ Delorie [2019-10-30 18:21]: > Dora Scilipoti writes: > > Oh! I thought the conversations here were started to talk about a new > > governance model specifically for GNU. > > Well... it's all related, but each sub-project in GNU itself needs a > local governance model, and even if it's diffe

Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated

2019-10-30 Thread DJ Delorie
Jean Louis writes: > 2. dictator, potentate -- (a ruler who is unconstrained by law) > 3. authoritarian, dictator -- (a person who behaves in a tyrannical > manner; "my boss is a dictator who makes everyone work overtime") These. It was Uli at the time. The experience was very negative.

Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated

2019-10-30 Thread DJ Delorie
Dora Scilipoti writes: > Oh! I thought the conversations here were started to talk about a new > governance model specifically for GNU. Well... it's all related, but each sub-project in GNU itself needs a local governance model, and even if it's different than the top-level GNU model, they intera

Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated

2019-10-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Dora Scilipoti [2019-10-30 04:37]: > Hello, > > almost five days after submitting my request for subscription, it was > finally approved. And a few hours before the approval happened, the > moderation rules were updated with yet more restrictions, and this > particular point: > > Tue, 29 Oct 2

Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated

2019-10-30 Thread DJ Delorie
Dora Scilipoti writes: > What if I want to propose a governance model that includes someone as > head of a committee, for example. Am I not allowed to name and talk > about the qualities of the person I consider relevant for the position? *Here* it's reasonable to talk about how the *model* wor

Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated

2019-10-30 Thread Dora Scilipoti
On 10/29/2019 11:41 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > I think that's an appropriate divide between globally-useful > information, and project-specific information. Oh! I thought the conversations here were started to talk about a new governance model specifically for GNU. -- Dora Scilipoti GNU Education

Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated

2019-10-29 Thread Dora Scilipoti
Hello, almost five days after submitting my request for subscription, it was finally approved. And a few hours before the approval happened, the moderation rules were updated with yet more restrictions, and this particular point: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 10:31:37 +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: > And for gov

Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated

2019-10-29 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
"Carlos O'Donell" wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:21 AM Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Mark Wielaard wrote: >> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 05:22:48AM +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: >> >> Iʼd like to report that my message number d0eidcqu.321...@gmail.com >> >> (below), sent a

Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated

2019-10-29 Thread Mark Wielaard
On Mon, 2019-10-28 at 16:28 -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > In this case the intent was to keep the conversations on topic for the > list in question as documented for gnu-misc-discuss: > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss (which I > didn't write). So specifically for this lis

Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated

2019-10-28 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 4:30 PM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Carlos O'Donell: > > > The GNU C Library main development list was pre-moderated for almost 5 > > years. During that period we moved a lot of conversations to the glibc > > help mailing list using moderation. This helped new users get sta

Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated

2019-10-28 Thread Florian Weimer
* Carlos O'Donell: > I placed the list on moderation to help with cooling down heated > discussions. It is entirely within the normal bounds of list > management to use moderation. It's actually very unusual to see this on technical/FOSS lists. Some communities have secret and not-so-secret bans

Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated

2019-10-28 Thread Florian Weimer
* Carlos O'Donell: > The GNU C Library main development list was pre-moderated for almost 5 > years. During that period we moved a lot of conversations to the glibc > help mailing list using moderation. This helped new users get started > in a more welcoming environment. Just an example of a publi

Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated

2019-10-28 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 4:10 PM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Carlos O'Donell: > > > I placed the list on moderation to help with cooling down heated > > discussions. It is entirely within the normal bounds of list > > management to use moderation. > > It's actually very unusual to see this on techn

Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated (was: ML posting issues)

2019-10-28 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:21 AM Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Mark Wielaard wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 05:22:48AM +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: > >> Iʼd like to report that my message number d0eidcqu.321...@gmail.com > >> (below), sent a day ago to gnu-misc-discuss@gn

Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated (was: ML posting issues)

2019-10-28 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Mark Wielaard wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 05:22:48AM +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: >> Iʼd like to report that my message number d0eidcqu.321...@gmail.com (below), >> sent a day ago to gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org (which I am subscribed on and >> usually have no problems to post to), had not l