Re: Bug? Problem with Gnucash Transcation Editor

2000-12-11 Thread Dave Peticolas
Vincent Laisney writes: Hello, I am trying to use Gnucash for my personal Finances. I am french and living in Germany, and I cannot use the Deadkey of my keyboar in the Field of the Transaction Editor (when I enter new transaction) For example when I want to type 'ê', I get '^e'. It is not

Re: File store (was Re: Salutations)

2000-12-11 Thread David Merrill
On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 10:40:03PM -0600, Christopher Browne wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:32:49 +1000, the world broke into rejoicing as "Phillip Shelton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: How does all of this affect the `closing the books'. If the books are `close-able' then maybe we do not have

Re: File store (was Re: Salutations)

2000-12-11 Thread Bill Gribble
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 01:57:31AM +, Al Snell wrote: Archives in SQL databases are useful for data mining and OLAP, but are more costly to store - anm archive file can be dumped onto tape or just deleted by the user at their convenience... Keep in mind that in the financial context, you

Re: File store (was Re: Salutations)

2000-12-11 Thread Al B. Snell
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Bill Gribble wrote: Keep in mind that in the financial context, you are not-infrequently asked to do simple "data mining" in the form of any report run over 2, 5, or 10 years of your history. The problem of multiyear reports is the biggest roadblock to book closing ATM.

Re: File store (was Re: Salutations)

2000-12-11 Thread Bill Gribble
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 02:28:15PM +, Al B. Snell wrote: Yes. I quite like the idea of havnig a "period" number in the transaction records and, at the increment of each period, creating transactions that transfer the balance of each account to an equity account, and then transferring it

Re: File store (was Re: Salutations)

2000-12-11 Thread Al B. Snell
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Bill Gribble wrote: Right, but that doesn't help you generate a graph of weekly bank balances over 5 years. This is a hard problem, and it's one I think needs to be addressed. Sure it does... SELECT SUM(amount),date_to_week_num(date) AS week FROM splits WHERE

Re: Degrees of Freedom in One-Way Anova by Rows

2000-12-11 Thread Bill Gribble
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 08:44:58AM +1000, Phillip J Shelton wrote: This week I will start re-organising the gnumeric functions into better function class groupings. Is there anyone who I will need to talk to about with respect to either code updates they have or the financial library? I'd

Re: File store (was Re: Salutations)

2000-12-11 Thread Christopher Browne
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:13:59 CST, the world broke into rejoicing as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Gribble) said: On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 01:57:31AM +, Al Snell wrote: Archives in SQL databases are useful for data mining and OLAP, but are more costly to store - anm archive file can be dumped

Re: Salutations

2000-12-11 Thread Derek Atkins
David Merrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what are the requirements? What exactly do you mean by strong security? I'm still working through the requirements. I definitely want all network traffic encrypted with at least 3-DES or AES (Rijndael). I'd like to have a flexible authorization

Re: Financial library

2000-12-11 Thread Christopher Browne
On Sat, 09 Dec 2000 12:05:03 +1100, the world broke into rejoicing as Robert Graham Merkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I also agree that a shared financial library would be an excellent idea. Is there any other project that might get on board, or should we just get going and if we start

Re: File store (was Re: Salutations)

2000-12-11 Thread Phillip J Shelton
Any other auditing considerations? Phill Christopher Browne wrote: Also in there is the auditing consideration of "If the period is closed, and people can't post there, then the past periods of data become `stable.'" Which is implementable by storing information on what periods of time are

gnucash: QIF import (fwd)

2000-12-11 Thread linas
forwarding to the mailing lists ... Forwarded message: Organization: trashware Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: gnucash: QIF import -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Linas, first of all thank you for your excellent

Re: Financial library

2000-12-11 Thread Bill Gribble
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 09:01:01AM -0600, Christopher Browne wrote: What is to be the nature of this "financial library"? Should there not be some specs of what it is to provide as services? It is to provide financial analysis functions suitable for building reports and graphs. Most of

RE: Financial library

2000-12-11 Thread Phillip Shelton
As gnucash is in C, should we look at seeing if it is ok to rewrite in C or just run with the gnumeric date functions? Or add another dependency? :-\ Phill -Original Message- IMHO date functions are not such a big deal. Believe me, Excel provides excellent set of date

Re: Financial library

2000-12-11 Thread Robert Graham Merkel
Phillip J Shelton writes: Woud also having the date functions in this library be a good thing? On the face of it, that's not a bad idea. However, the gnumeric people to some extent have already had their date representation and functions decided for them (by the desire for Excel

RE: Financial library

2000-12-11 Thread Phillip Shelton
I am not advocating a new dependency. Had enough trouble getting gnumeric to compile. -Original Message- From: Robert Graham Merkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 11:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Financial library

Re: File store (was Re: Salutations)

2000-12-11 Thread Steve Greenland
On 11-Dec-00, 14:43 (CST), Phillip J Shelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to be dense. Isn't there some way to have the DB store the current balance with each record? That way the current balence would just be the current balence from the last record. One possible problem with this is

Re: File store (was Re: Salutations)

2000-12-11 Thread Derek Atkins
David Merrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One problem, though. Say the user jumps to a date in their ledger that is 11 months ago. How do you know the balance after a given transaction back then, without having to load the intervening transactions? In an environment with, say, 10,000

Re: File store (was Re: Salutations)

2000-12-11 Thread Al Snell
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, David Merrill wrote: So that means you would retrieve the current balance, and then work *backwards* from there to calculate running balances in the ledger? That sounds like it would work with small data sets. One problem, though. Say the user jumps to a date in

Re: File store (was Re: Salutations)

2000-12-11 Thread David Merrill
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 03:12:12PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: On 11-Dec-00, 14:43 (CST), Phillip J Shelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to be dense. Isn't there some way to have the DB store the current balance with each record? That way the current balence would just be the

Re: Database Schema

2000-12-11 Thread Derek Atkins
Take your time. I'd rather get a well-thought-out schema in a week than something hacked together today ;) -derek David Merrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I said I would work on the database schema today, but my partner and I decided it was time to put our tree up, before Yule was past. :-)

Re: File store (was Re: Salutations)

2000-12-11 Thread Al B. Snell
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Bill Gribble wrote: What I understood your proposal about closing books to be was: - at book closing time all account balances get rolled up into a 'closing/opening' balance for the next period. - expenses/income get transferred to equity. - old transactions

Re: File store (was Re: Salutations)

2000-12-11 Thread Steve Greenland
On 11-Dec-00, 00:18 (CST), Phillip Shelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, that's doubtless one of the design criteria. One, by the way, that effectively rules out MySQL, as it doesn't do triggers... A case for a feature request to MySQL? They don't seem too interested in doing them. The

RE: Financial library

2000-12-11 Thread Robert Graham Merkel
Phillip Shelton writes: As gnucash is in C, should we look at seeing if it is ok to rewrite in C or just run with the gnumeric date functions? Or add another dependency? :-\ Um, I can't speak definitively but I think we'd all be extremely wary of adding dependancies to C++ libraries,

Re: Financial library

2000-12-11 Thread Eugene Tyurin
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:04:49AM +1100, Robert Graham Merkel wrote: Phillip J Shelton writes: Would also having the date functions in this library be a good thing? On the face of it, that's not a bad idea. However, the gnumeric people to some extent have already had their date

RE: Financial library

2000-12-11 Thread Phillip Shelton
In making the financial functions non gnumeric specific, gnumeric will have to have a wrapper to add the spread sheet requirements to them so it should not be too hard to write wrappers for the dates either. If gnucash is benefiting from numeric with the financial functions then gnumeric can

Re: File store (was Re: Salutations)

2000-12-11 Thread David Merrill
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 06:43:17AM +1000, Phillip J Shelton wrote: Sorry to be dense. Isn't there some way to have the DB store the current balance with each record? That way the current balence would just be the current balence from the last record. Or is that more expensive than I

Re: Financial library

2000-12-11 Thread Phillip J Shelton
Woud also having the date functions in this library be a good thing? Bill Gribble wrote: On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 09:01:01AM -0600, Christopher Browne wrote: What is to be the nature of this "financial library"? Should there not be some specs of what it is to provide as services? It is

Re: File store (was Re: Salutations)

2000-12-11 Thread Al Snell
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Phillip J Shelton wrote: Sorry to be dense. Isn't there some way to have the DB store the current balance with each record? That way the current balence would just be the current balence from the last record. Or is that more expensive than I realise? It's a lot of

RE: File store (was Re: Salutations)

2000-12-11 Thread Phillip Shelton
Thus we need to ask our accountants just what happens at the end of an accounting period. For I am sure I read somewhere that once an accounting period is closed then there should be no more changes to that data set. If an error is found a new transaction in the current period is entered to

RE: File store (was Re: Salutations)

2000-12-11 Thread Phillip Shelton
-Original Message- On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, David Merrill wrote: (grumble) I didn't make myself clear: the point of my proposal about transferring all the account balances to an equity account and back again at period closing was that, to find the current balance, you'd only need