Re: arguments to -render in HTML generator code

2001-01-15 Thread Bill Gribble
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 03:53:49PM +1100, Robert Graham Merkel wrote: Hey grib, I'm almost to the point of doing useful things with panes (finally). One of the final things that needs to be in place is a renderer along the lines of the gnc:html-*foo*-render that are required to display

latest g-wrap does not work with guile 1.3 on RH 6.2

2001-01-15 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi, I'm trying to build the latest GnuCash on Red Hat 6.2 but g-wrap seems to have dropped support for guile 1.3. I don't want to update my guile subsystem because I want to remain as close to "native 6.2" as possible (also because I still want to build the 1.4 RPMs as they are released). So,

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dan Kegel
Ariel Rios wrote: Because there are very few people who know how to program in Scheme compared to the number of people who know how to program in C, C++, Java, or Perl. Basically your argument is: "Scheme is bad for there are not many programmers". Nope, not saying Scheme is bad. It

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dan Kegel
James LewisMoss wrote: Requiring that all high-level Gnucash code be in Scheme might be restricting the number of developers able to contribute to it. Why? Dan Because there are very few people who know how to program in Dan Scheme compared to the number of people who know how to

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Al Snell
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Dan Kegel wrote: On the other hand, perhaps you folks are using "ability to program Scheme" in the same way Linus is using "ability to debug kernel problems without a kernel debugger", i.e. as an IQ filter to keep dumb people from contributing code. I respect that

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dan Kegel
Al Snell wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Dan Kegel wrote: On the other hand, perhaps you folks are using "ability to program Scheme" in the same way Linus is using "ability to debug kernel problems without a kernel debugger", i.e. as an IQ filter to keep dumb people from contributing code.

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Bill Gribble
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 06:37:59PM +, Al Snell wrote: On the other hand, perhaps you folks are using "ability to program Scheme" in the same way Linus is using "ability to debug kernel problems without a kernel debugger", i.e. as an IQ filter to keep dumb people from contributing

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dirk-Jan C . Binnema
On Tue Jan 16, 2001 at 05:51:31PM +1100, Robert Graham Merkel wrote: Ariel Rios writes: On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Dan Kegel wrote: I'm sure this has been discussed a zillion times but I'd like to bring it up again: Requiring that all high-level Gnucash code be in Scheme

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dave Peticolas
"Dirk-Jan C . Binnema" writes: On Tue Jan 16, 2001 at 05:51:31PM +1100, Robert Graham Merkel wrote: Ariel Rios writes: On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Dan Kegel wrote: I'm sure this has been discussed a zillion times but I'd like to bring it up again: Requiring that

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Gribble) writes: I've written big programs in C, C++, Common LISP, and Scheme, and small programs in lots and lots of languages. For working on big programs, right at this time I can't think of any way I'd rather do it than as a combination of Scheme and C. Scheme

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Eugene Tyurin
Many years ago (circa 1988) I remember briefly trying out some package called Texas Instruments' Scheme. Back then I thought it looked like a dialect of Lisp with some additional system and GUI toolkits. Is that "The Scheme" we're talking about? -- Nothing here - come back later!

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dan Kegel
Eugene Tyurin wrote: Many years ago (circa 1988) I remember briefly trying out some package called Texas Instruments' Scheme. Back then I thought it looked like a dialect of Lisp with some additional system and GUI toolkits. Is that "The Scheme" we're talking about? Scheme

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Ariel Rios
I think this is a little bit disingenuous. Nobody outside the gnucash-devel list is requiring gnucash to use Scheme, least of all RMS; in point of fact, hardly any GNU projects actually use Scheme anyway, despite several years of drum-beating to get it to happen. False. Many GNOME

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dan Kegel
Ariel Rios wrote: I think this is a little bit disingenuous. Nobody outside the gnucash-devel list is requiring gnucash to use Scheme, least of all RMS; in point of fact, hardly any GNU projects actually use Scheme anyway, despite several years of drum-beating to get it to happen.

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dan Kegel
Dan Kegel wrote: Now I'm reading about car, cdr, caar, cddr, cadr, cdar, and the like. How nice that all the keywords of the language are so intuitive and high-level, uninfluenced by the hardware the language originally ran on. Forgot the URL for the origin story of those keywords. It's

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Tyson Dowd
On 15-Jan-2001, Dan Kegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, I went and bought a Scheme book today at my favorite technical bookstore (Op-Amp Books in Los Angeles). I asked the clerk where the Scheme books were and he sniggered... there was an entire wall of C++ books, and just four books

attaching callbacks (was Re: arguments to -render . . .)

2001-01-15 Thread Robert Graham Merkel
Bill Gribble writes: On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 03:53:49PM +1100, Robert Graham Merkel wrote: Hey grib, I'm almost to the point of doing useful things with panes (finally). One of the final things that needs to be in place is a renderer along the lines of the gnc:html-*foo*-render

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Christopher Browne
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:09:10 EST, the world broke into rejoicing as Ariel Rios [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I think this is a little bit disingenuous. Nobody outside the gnucash-devel list is requiring gnucash to use Scheme, least of all RMS; in point of fact, hardly any GNU projects actually

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dan Kegel
Christopher Browne wrote: Frankly, it's utterly unimportant if there are thousands of people out there in "Internet-Land" that think Scheme is a ludicrous choice if, in contrast, the core developers of GnuCash _all_ happen to like Scheme. If the latter fact is true [and if not directly true,