Pango and Debian

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Williams
Just a heads-up on the pango problems reported previously and highlighted in GNOME2_STATUS. It's more than just warnings to the console. Now that I've been building updated trees and testing within G2 regularly, I can report that these pango errors are preventing G2 from displaying any *numbers

Re: gnome2 graphing update [WAS: Re: Proposals about gnucash-gnome2]

2005-10-13 Thread Emmanuel Pacaud
Hi, Please ignore previous post, sent by an unintentional CTR+Enter. Le mercredi 12 octobre 2005 à 20:50 -0400, Josh Sled a écrit : > On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 13:46 -0400, Josh Sled wrote: > > One area in particular that is new and unknown is the graphing support. > > I've just gotten it working aga

Re: gnome2 graphing update [WAS: Re: Proposals about gnucash-gnome2]

2005-10-13 Thread Emmanuel Pacaud
Le mercredi 12 octobre 2005 à 20:50 -0400, Josh Sled a écrit : > On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 13:46 -0400, Josh Sled wrote: > > One area in particular that is new and unknown is the graphing support. > > I've just gotten it working again, and it would be useful to get the > > widest basic test of this cod

Re: [Gnucash-changes] Converting to GModule backends

2005-10-13 Thread Chris Shoemaker
Neil, There are still many cases where your edits lines are indented differently than the surrounding lines, e.g.: On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 08:28:10AM -0400, Neil Williams wrote: > @@ -129,15 +154,6 @@ > closedir(xml2_dir); > > print_test_results(); > -exit(get_rv()); > -} >

Re: gnome2 graphing update [WAS: Re: Proposals about gnucash-gnome2]

2005-10-13 Thread Josh Sled
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 14:37 +0200, Emmanuel Pacaud wrote: > Rotated texts are supported in latest goffice release. If you have Awesome! I should have been more clear... - The version of goffice we've copied into the gnucash source tree doesn't support rotation. - I probably won't re-copy li

Re: [Gnucash-changes] Chris Shoemaker's changes to make 'make dist' work again.

2005-10-13 Thread Chris Shoemaker
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 09:59:36PM -0400, David Hampton wrote: > Log Message: > --- > Chris Shoemaker's changes to make 'make dist' work again. David, I noticed that you dropped the bits adding /*, and */ to gncBusPeriod.c. IIRC, these were motivated by gettext finding unintention

Re: [Gnucash-changes] Chris Shoemaker's changes to make 'make dist' work again.

2005-10-13 Thread David Hampton
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 10:11 -0400, Chris Shoemaker wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 09:59:36PM -0400, David Hampton wrote: > > Log Message: > > --- > > Chris Shoemaker's changes to make 'make dist' work again. > > David, > I noticed that you dropped the bits adding /*, and */ to >

Re: Pango and Debian

2005-10-13 Thread Josh Sled
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 09:06 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > It's more than just warnings to the console. Now that I've been building > updated trees and testing within G2 regularly, I can report that these pango > errors are preventing G2 from displaying any *numbers* or *currency symbols* > in th

Re: [Gnucash-changes] Converting to GModule backends

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Williams
On Thursday 13 October 2005 2:16 pm, Chris Shoemaker wrote: > Neil, > There are still many cases where your edits lines are indented > differently than the surrounding lines, e.g.: Many? I thought I'd caught them all - bar maybe one or two. > On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 08:28:10AM -0400, Neil

G2 on Mac OSX

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Williams
Thanks in part to Chris' changes, my next commit (today) will bring a full G2 build to Mac OSX for the first time. However, that is not the final problem, the build now completes (make && make install) but the Scheme code won't run. It cannot find it's procedures for some reason: $ ./gnucash -

Re: [Gnucash-changes] Converting to GModule backends

2005-10-13 Thread Chris Shoemaker
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 04:31:02PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > On Thursday 13 October 2005 2:16 pm, Chris Shoemaker wrote: > > Neil, > > There are still many cases where your edits lines are indented > > differently than the surrounding lines, e.g.: > > Many? I thought I'd caught them al

Re: G2 on Mac OSX

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Williams
On Thursday 13 October 2005 5:09 pm, Neil Williams wrote: > I can now make dist on Debian unstable, FC3 and Mac OSX 10.3. I expected > the Debian tarball to be smaller because it's using external libgoffice Ignore that - the debian tarball includes the internal GOffice code, of course it does. (!

Re: G2 on Mac OSX

2005-10-13 Thread Chris Shoemaker
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 05:22:31PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > On Thursday 13 October 2005 5:09 pm, Neil Williams wrote: > > I can now make dist on Debian unstable, FC3 and Mac OSX 10.3. I expected > > the Debian tarball to be smaller because it's using external libgoffice > > Ignore that - the

Re: G2 on Mac OSX

2005-10-13 Thread Chris Shoemaker
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 12:37:28PM -0400, Chris Shoemaker wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 05:22:31PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > On Thursday 13 October 2005 5:09 pm, Neil Williams wrote: > > > I can now make dist on Debian unstable, FC3 and Mac OSX 10.3. I expected > > > the Debian tarball to

Re: [Gnucash-changes] Converting to GModule backends

2005-10-13 Thread Derek Atkins
Chris Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > p.s. BTW, I use emacs and it is a pure joy to use w.r.t. to this. I wonder if we should put the emacs magic in each file to set our tab guidelines? -derek -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student

Re: [Gnucash-changes] Converting to GModule backends

2005-10-13 Thread Chris Shoemaker
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 01:16:52PM -0400, Derek Atkins wrote: > Chris Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > p.s. BTW, I use emacs and it is a pure joy to use w.r.t. to this. > > I wonder if we should put the emacs magic in each file > to set our tab guidelines? IMHO, that stuff is ugly, es

Re: G2 on Mac OSX

2005-10-13 Thread Derek Atkins
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I can now make dist on Debian unstable, FC3 and Mac OSX 10.3. I expected the > Debian tarball to be smaller because it's using external libgoffice and soon > will use external QOF (I have a G2 tree that uses external QOF and will > commit the changes

Re: G2 on Mac OSX

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Williams
On Thursday 13 October 2005 5:42 pm, Chris Shoemaker wrote: > > No idea. Is there a difference in the 'tar -tvf' outputs? Yes. (Which I guess is not the answer you would have preferred!) Using tar -tzf gnucash-1.99-0.tar.gz > filename.txt I get: -rw-r--r-- 1 neil neil 126219 2005-10-13 18:02 d

Re: G2 on Mac OSX

2005-10-13 Thread Derek Atkins
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] Sorry, should've read the full thread before responding. Mea Culpa. > So the file size difference is due to??? (and does it matter?) > >> Debian: 7.0Mb >> Mac OSX: 7.8Mb >> FC3: 8.4Mb. Different levels of compression? copy all three tarballs to

Re: G2 on Mac OSX

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Williams
On Thursday 13 October 2005 5:42 pm, Chris Shoemaker wrote: > > No idea. Is there a difference in the 'tar -tvf' outputs? Actually, it does seem to be limited to the *.gmo (which are generated) and contents of lib/glib26. Only Fedora packages gnucash.pot All package the .po files themselves as

Re: [Gnucash-changes] Mac OSX fix - remove non-portable settings

2005-10-13 Thread Derek Atkins
Neil, Why did you remove this libtool test from autogen.sh? -derek Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > --- macros/autogen.sh > +++ macros/autogen.sh > @@ -126,15 +126,15 @@ > INTL="--intl --no-changelog";; > esac > > -(grep "^AM_PROG_LIBTOOL" $srcdir/configure.in >/dev/null) &&

Re: G2 on Mac OSX

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Williams
On Thursday 13 October 2005 6:23 pm, Derek Atkins wrote: > Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sorry, should've read the full thread before responding. > Mea Culpa. :-) That's OK. I should have realised when I typed it! > > So the file size difference is due to??? (and does it matter?) >

Re: [Gnucash-changes] Mac OSX fix - remove non-portable settings

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: | Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | |>The version of libtool on OSX has no --version command, it has no --help |>or -? or --usage or any other simple command that does not start the |>linker. Whatever you pass it

Re: G2 on Mac OSX

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Williams
On Thursday 13 October 2005 6:21 pm, Derek Atkins wrote: > Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The tarball should be the same on all platforms. [snip] > -derek Any hints on the Scheme problem? I'd like to be able to run G2 on OSX from this build. > However, that is not the final proble

Re: G2 on Mac OSX

2005-10-13 Thread Derek Atkins
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thursday 13 October 2005 5:42 pm, Chris Shoemaker wrote: >> > No idea. Is there a difference in the 'tar -tvf' outputs? > > Actually, it does seem to be limited to the *.gmo (which are generated) and > contents of lib/glib26. > > Only Fedora package

Re: [Gnucash-changes] Mac OSX fix - remove non-portable settings

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Williams
On Thursday 13 October 2005 6:38 pm, Derek Atkins wrote: > Neil, > > Why did you remove this libtool test from autogen.sh? It halts the OSX build. I'll review it - it could be related to my other problems with OSX and paths. > > +# (grep "^AM_PROG_LIBTOOL" $srcdir/configure.in >/dev/null) && { >

Re: Pango and Debian

2005-10-13 Thread Didier Vidal
On Fedora 2, I don't see any of these warnings. Wheter the locale is fr_FR or fr_FR.utf8. No problem either with en_GB. Pango version is 1.4.1. Didier. Le jeu 13/10/2005 à 15:57, Josh Sled a écrit : > On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 09:06 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > It's more than just warnings to the

Re: xml schema description of XML GnuCash file?

2005-10-13 Thread Josh Sled
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 12:48 -0500, Larry Evans wrote: > Is there any interest in developing such a schema? It would take, practically, a total re-write of the XML backend to actively use the schema in parsing or generation. The code right now isn't in flux, so there's little need to verify the co

xml schema description of XML GnuCash file?

2005-10-13 Thread Larry Evans
Such a description could be used as described here: http://ws.apache.org/jaxme/manual/ch01.html#N1003C and it might just be useful for developers to check that they've created a partially correct XML GnuCash file after some modifications to the gnucash code. Is there any interest in developin

Re: G2 on Mac OSX

2005-10-13 Thread Derek Atkins
Quoting Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: See other thread, I think it's just gnucash.pot, *.gmo and a rather worrying lack of lib/glib26 in the Mac tarball. It won't cause any trouble to put those few files as a redundant EXTRA_DIST, would it? It might. Try the patch I just committed to CVS

Re: G2 on Mac OSX

2005-10-13 Thread Derek Atkins
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I suspect it could be a problem with the opt-style-install (which > nevertheless > is not a problem on any other platform) because the same box is running > GnuCash 1.8 fine. I might try an install from the dist tarball > into /sw/local/ (to not over

Re: G2 on Mac OSX

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Derek Atkins wrote: | Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: |>Only Fedora packages gnucash.pot | | Hmm, I wonder why.. I guess other platforms generate it in the dist build - possibly in case patches are needed to the upstream tarball. |>Darwin

Re: [Gnucash-changes] Mac OSX fix - remove non-portable settings

2005-10-13 Thread Derek Atkins
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> The version of libtool on OSX has no --version command, it has no --help >> or -? or --usage or any other simple command that does not start the >> linker. Whatever you pass it, either you pass a valid

Re: [Gnucash-changes] Mac OSX fix - remove non-portable settings

2005-10-13 Thread Derek Atkins
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Nope. It's nothing to do with the path. It's this command: > > |>>+# (${LIBTOOL} --version) < /dev/null > /dev/null 2>&1 || { > > The version of libtool on OSX has no --version command, it has no --help > or -? or --usage or any other simple command tha

Re: [Gnucash-changes] Mac OSX fix - remove non-portable settings

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil Williams wrote: | On Thursday 13 October 2005 6:38 pm, Derek Atkins wrote: | |>Neil, |> |>Why did you remove this libtool test from autogen.sh? | | It halts the OSX build. I'll review it - it could be related to my other | problems with OSX and p

Re: Pango and Debian

2005-10-13 Thread Derek Atkins
I haven't seen any of these errors on FC3, either. -derek Didier Vidal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fedora 2, I don't see any of these warnings. Wheter the locale is > fr_FR or fr_FR.utf8. No problem either with en_GB. Pango version is > 1.4.1. > > Didier. > > Le jeu 13/10/2005 à 15:57, Josh

Re: G2 on Mac OSX

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Derek Atkins wrote: | Quoting Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: | |> See other thread, I think it's just gnucash.pot, *.gmo and a rather |> worrying |> lack of lib/glib26 in the Mac tarball. It won't cause any trouble to put |> those few files as a r

compiling on debian

2005-10-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
howdy, so i finally got around to checking out a new copy of gnucash to compile (wanted to play with Josh's graphing stuff). first, I had trouble checking out "gnucash-gnome2-dev" (I assume that is the version to try?) so I went for "gnucash". autogen.sh works fine make give the following s

Re: [Gnucash-changes] Mac OSX fix - remove non-portable settings

2005-10-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The version of libtool on OSX has no --version command, it has no --help > or -? or --usage or any other simple command that does not start the > linker. Whatever you pass it, either you pass a valid link command or > you get the error message - which na

Re: xml schema description of XML GnuCash file?

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Larry Evans wrote: | Such a description could be used as described here: | | http://ws.apache.org/jaxme/manual/ch01.html#N1003C Probably best to wait for G2 and the QSF format which you can use to export data from the gnucash data because this also

Re: compiling on debian

2005-10-13 Thread Chris Shoemaker
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 11:52:10AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > howdy, > > so i finally got around to checking out a new copy of gnucash to compile > (wanted to play with Josh's graphing stuff). first, I had trouble > checking out "gnucash-gnome2-dev" (I assume that is the version to tr

Re: compiling on debian

2005-10-13 Thread Derek Atkins
Quoting Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: howdy, so i finally got around to checking out a new copy of gnucash to compile (wanted to play with Josh's graphing stuff). first, I had trouble checking out "gnucash-gnome2-dev" (I assume that is the version to try?) so I went for "gnucash

Re: [Gnucash-changes] Mac OSX fix - remove non-portable settings

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Derek Atkins wrote: | Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: |>Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: |> |>>The version of libtool installed by Apple |>>on OSX has no --version command The fink one DOES (and it's been installed for mont

Re: [Gnucash-changes] Mac OSX fix - remove non-portable settings

2005-10-13 Thread Derek Atkins
Quoting Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'll put something in HACKING or similar. I'd suggest README.cvs instead of HACKING. -derek -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.ed

Re: Pango and Debian

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Williams
On Thursday 13 October 2005 2:57 pm, Josh Sled wrote: > On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 09:06 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > It's more than just warnings to the console. Now that I've been building > > updated trees and testing within G2 regularly, I can report that these > > pango errors are preventing G2

Re: xml schema description of XML GnuCash file?

2005-10-13 Thread Phil Longstaff
--- Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not for the current file backend, it is also slated > for replacement. XML > is not an ideal choice of long term storage of > important data. The Massachusetts state government might not agree with you. Phil __

Re: Pango and Debian

2005-10-13 Thread Josh Sled
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 21:00 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > The default isn't to use UTF-8, is this something we need to document > somewhere? (apart from the list archive). > > The section in GNOME2_STATUS can be removed whenever anyone is next editing > it. Or diminished, but it'd be nice to kn

Re: xml schema description of XML GnuCash file?

2005-10-13 Thread Derek Atkins
Quoting Phil Longstaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: --- Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not for the current file backend, it is also slated for replacement. XML is not an ideal choice of long term storage of important data. The Massachusetts state government might not agree with you. Let m

Re: compiling on debian

2005-10-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Derek Atkins wrote: What cvs command did you use? You probably forgot the "-r" to grab the g2 branch, thinking g2 was a module instead. I bet you pulled down HEAD branch, which wont work on Debian/unstable. yup, the -r. [snip] cc1: warnings being treated as errors gw-engine.c: In fun

Re: Pango and Debian

2005-10-13 Thread Didier Vidal
I think reproduced the problem. Although I do not have the warnings (maybe there is no trace in my version of pango), I get display errors. The problem apears if I use the pound as currency with the en_GB locale. The explanation would be the following: gnucash attempts to display the pound symbo

Re: xml schema description of XML GnuCash file?

2005-10-13 Thread Larry Evans
On 10/13/2005 01:25 PM, Neil Williams wrote: [snip] Full details of QSF are here (including a Schema): http://code.neil.williamsleesmill.me.uk/qsf.html Very interesting. The page: http://code.neil.williamsleesmill.me.uk/map.html contains: qsf-map is an XML format used to map a series o

Re: Pango and Debian

2005-10-13 Thread David Hampton
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 22:54 +0200, Didier Vidal wrote: > If this is true, that means that the problems lies in the way messages > are passed to gnome. Something should be done to convert them from the > locale's charmap to utf-8 before displaying them. Why are we reading ISO-8859 characters in th

Re: xml schema description of XML GnuCash file?

2005-10-13 Thread Josh Sled
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 16:29 -0500, Larry Evans wrote: > Anyone have any better ideas on how to communicate > between Gnumeric and GnuCash? http://gnomesupport.org/wiki/index.php/GnuCashFrequentlyAskedQuestions#Q:_How_can_I_export_data.3F http://gnomesupport.org/wiki/index.php/GnuCashFrequentlyAske

Re: G2 on Mac OSX

2005-10-13 Thread Peter O'Gorman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil Williams wrote: | Those "linking foobar against executable foobaz is not portable" warnings halt | the build on OSX, so the bulk of this will be to remove all the unnecessary | -module settings in the Makefiles. (Only those that halt the build h

rework etags makefile design

2005-10-13 Thread Chris Shoemaker
[ FYI, this time I'm sending to -devel *on*purpose* to discuss patch. :) ] I don't know why, but for whatever reason I got really hung-up on figuring out why the 'make etags' was always triggering the remake of the etags.files rule, and why it was always re-running etags. It seemed like I might a

Re: Converting to GModule backends

2005-10-13 Thread David Hampton
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 08:28 -0400, Neil Williams wrote: > Log Message: > --- > Converting to GModule backends I'm now seeing the following message in the trace file: Failed to open module gnucash/backend/file : could not locate gnucash/backend/file interface v.0 This wasn't there bef