Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
I've been thinking about the Disk-File vs. Database arguments for a while, and I think there are some broader architectural changes to the current datastore model that would need to be made before any kind of multi-access could be implemented. My thesis is that if we can move to a more

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the data communication side, there's also CORBA to consider. I personally dislike CORBA. My reasoning is two-fold: 1) Synchronous RPC is BAD (in many cases). 2) CORBA tries to push protocol design onto programmers.. But

RE: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread mike . perik
: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 2:28 PM To: Derek Atkins Cc: Rob Browning; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture? delurk Hi Derek, While I'm hardly a CORBA expert, I'd like to reply to some of these comments

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Jonathan Blandford
Derek Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes it can. You can send multiple oneway requests, and let the remote object send oneway replies back. ... at this point what added benefit are you getting from CORBA? To me, at this point you are still defining a protocol, and using CORBA for

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
side. Mike -Original Message- From: Derek Atkins [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 1:56 PM To: Perik, Mike Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture? Aren't

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Rob Browning
Derek Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, any comments? Yep. How about "You're more or less exactly right." : Pieces of this discussion have popped up on the list in various incarnations over the years, and we all know this kind of thing is needed, but it's a big job, and no one's exactly

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Rob Browning
Derek Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I personally dislike CORBA. My reasoning is two-fold: I don't actually know enough about CORBA to dislike it : but I've messed with RPC systems enough to sympathize strongly with your criticisms. I mostly just brought it up as another one of those

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
Jonathan Blandford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 84 RPC calls? That's pretty heavy, regardless of the protocol or mechanism. But that aside, CORBA has the oneway directive that lets you send asynchronous requests. Yea, I was flabergasted when I heard that, too. It's not something that M$ is

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Jonathan Blandford
delurk Hi Derek, While I'm hardly a CORBA expert, I'd like to reply to some of these comments. Derek Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the data communication side, there's also CORBA to consider. I personally dislike CORBA. My reasoning is

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Dave Peticolas
Derek Atkins writes: So, any comments? Yup, I agree too. dave ___ gnucash-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gnumatic.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Jonathan Blandford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CORBA oneway calls are not guaranteed. They require "best effort" by the ORB. Network calls aren't guaranteed either... Thanks, -Jonathan ___ gnucash-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
Jonathan Blandford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Less code to write. More code share amongst other apps on your desktop (ie. those using GNOME). If gnucash ever decides to use Bonobo, it'll need to be using CORBA anyway. The thing about protocols (especially those involving applications) is

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
2:28 PM To: Derek Atkins Cc: Rob Browning; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture? delurk Hi Derek, While I'm hardly a CORBA expert, I'd like to reply to some of these comments. Derek Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rob

RE: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread mike . perik
CORBA oneway calls are not guaranteed. Mike -Original Message- From: Jonathan Blandford [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 2:28 PM To: Derek Atkins Cc: Rob Browning; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture