Re: [GNC] Expense distribution main and sub accounts

2019-06-18 Thread David Cousens
Norman If I understand you correctly, the rent is an expense for the associated body but income for the Master body. Presumably each of these bodies has their own Assets and bank accounts. If there is only a single bank account for the master and associate bodies you could still create subaccounts

[GNC] Transfer funds after reconcile, finish ???

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
Hi All, After a successful Reconcile, Finish, I sometimes get the following pop up: I changed the number to zero before pasting. What is this all about? Why would it want to transfer funds? I press cancel. Many thanks, -T ___ g

Re: [GNC] Expense distribution main and sub accounts

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I’m not certain what you mean by ‘body’ but it seems to look like your dealing with 6 separate entities and a parent entity. If that is the case, while you might be able to accomplish this with some fancy and very duplicative account structures, and likely a few duplicate transactions, you migh

[GNC] Expense distribution main and sub accounts

2019-06-18 Thread NORMAN HOSKIN
Hello, I have set up gnu cash for an association. The acc set up is a master account for the managing body and 6 sub accounts for all the associate bodies. All the income & expenses are entered in the sub associate account. The all works well with each sub body balancing The difficulty I am having

Re: [GNC] Assistance on transition from one OS to another

2019-06-18 Thread John Ralls via gnucash-user
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 8:05 PM, David T. via gnucash-user > wrote: > > Hello, > I am a long time user of gnucash on a Mac, and am now transitioning to either > windows or linux; I'm still sorting out which. > This message is decidedly NOT a request for anyone's input on that choice, > howev

[GNC] Assistance on transition from one OS to another

2019-06-18 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Hello, I am a long time user of gnucash on a Mac, and am now transitioning to either windows or linux; I'm still sorting out which.  This message is decidedly NOT a request for anyone's input on that choice, however.  What I am trying to figure out is how to get the many customized preferences I

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 5:23 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: If you ARE balanced (‘Difference’ = $0.00) then you don’t*need* to ‘balance’ anything, you need to `Finish` the reconciliation. I know you are averse to it, but reading the manual would have saved you and everyone else lots of time and confusion.

Re: [GNC] New computer to set up gnucash and migrate from old.

2019-06-18 Thread Bruce Irving via gnucash-user
"Please trim your replies when replying to a digest. The easiest way to do that for most mail clients is to first highlight the relevant part you are replying to, then hit the `Reply-all` or `Reply-list` buttons. The new mail will only quote what you have highlighted rather than 14 feet worth of

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 5:14 PM, Stephen M. Butler wrote: I think you are trying to overthink this and making it much more complicated on yourself. I am thinking you are right ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription pref

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 5:19 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Do you not get your paper statements within 7-10 days of the end of the closing date? yes ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
If you ARE balanced (‘Difference’ = $0.00) then you don’t *need* to ‘balance’ anything, you need to `Finish` the reconciliation. I know you are averse to it, but reading the manual would have saved you and everyone else lots of time and confusion. Heck, just hovering over the button and waiting

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 7:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user > wrote: > > >> Long delivery times make tracking charges/clearings more cumbersome, but not >> impossible. Reconciliation isn’t concerned with that though. >> The *purpose* of reconciliation is not to reconcile the transactions, i

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 5:05 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:58 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: 2) use Balance with the starting date of my current statement, so a month behind. No, no, no, no. Do *NOT* use the balance button unless the ‘Difference’ is something OTHER THA

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Stephen M. Butler
On 6/18/19 4:50 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: > On 6/18/19 4:43 PM, Ronal B Morse wrote: > > I can user the thing in the lower right corner.  Other > wise I have to wait from the next statement to arrive to > reconcile those that did not make it to the current statement. And that is ho

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 5:07 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: It isn’t adding it without you telling it to, which you are doing when you click the `Balance` button when you should not be, because you are already balanced. Oh It was a surprise the first time. Now I expect and avoid it. Bozo's account gets a

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 5:00 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: To add on one more tidbit for an anticipated question: What ??? Me??? I realize I can be thick as a rock at times. It isn’t very likely that a charge will take more than 24 hours to settle. (business sales charged on delivery with long lead times

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 7:02 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user > wrote: > > On 6/18/19 4:56 PM, Maf. King wrote: >> I'm slightly confused as to why dispatch dates matter in an accounting >> program. It almost sounds like you are trying to use the reconcile workflow >> for something that is not.

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:58 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user > wrote: > > > >> It is not adding spurious transactions. Certainly not on its own. > > It is adding what I did not check off as being on the statement. > GRRR It isn’t adding it without you telling it to, which you are doing

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:58 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user > wrote: > > > > 2) use Balance with the starting date of my current > statement, so a month behind. > No, no, no, no. Do *NOT* use the balance button unless the ‘Difference’ is something OTHER THAN $0.00 after checking off all t

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 4:56 PM, Maf. King wrote: I'm slightly confused as to why dispatch dates matter in an accounting program. It almost sounds like you are trying to use the reconcile workflow for something that is not. Just trying to get everything inside the balance date. I do not use the "balance"

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
To add on one more tidbit for an anticipated question: It isn’t very likely that a charge will take more than 24 hours to settle. (business sales charged on delivery with long lead times would be different of course) You might have a few that will be charged at the end of one period and not cle

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 4:36 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Adrian, If it add spurious entries for translations that have not passed during the date periods I am checking, it is useless. It would only work if I altered all my charge dates to their actual post date. That I DO NOT WANT. The box in the lower

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Maf. King
On Wednesday, 19 June 2019 00:47:26 BST ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: > On 6/18/19 4:27 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >> On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user > >> wrote:>> > >> On 6/18/19 3:41 AM, Maf. King wrote: > >>> Things these days are generally much more ins

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
YES! That’s how it works. Unless you want to verify it online, then you can ‘c’ them earlier and likely just enter an ending balance and then click `Finish` when the statement comes in. (maybe check off a few cleared items in the interim to make sure you balance) But that really isn’t a ‘month

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 4:43 PM, Ronal B Morse wrote: What Adrian said. Once you understand this, then reconciliation will make perfect sense, and you will never, ever press the "balance" button (where that extra transaction you don't want came from) again. Ron Apologies, Adrien. You were the victim of an

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Thanks. I suspected as much, and it usually doesn’t bother me. But it has only happened on very rare occasion, except one particular user who just doesn’t bother to either notice, or fix it. Regards, Adrien > On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:43 PM, Ronal B Morse wrote: > >> What Adrian said. Once you u

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 4:27 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: On 6/18/19 3:41 AM, Maf. King wrote: Things these days are generally much more instant, although sometimes not as instant as we might like. HTH, Maf Not really. By law, folks

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Ronal B Morse
> What Adrian said. Once you understand this, then > reconciliation will make perfect sense, and you will never, > ever press the "balance" button (where that extra > transaction > you don't want came from) again. > > Ron > Apologies, Adrien. You were the victim of an apparent auto- correct plo

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Ronal B Morse
On Tue, 2019-06-18 at 18:27 -0500, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > > > You shouldn’t need to enter a balancing transaction unless > you aren’t balanced. And if you need to enter it, you > *must* check it off (either via ‘c’ in the register or the > checkbox in the reconciliation window) in order to Fin

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> Adrian, > > If it add spurious entries for translations that have not passed > during the date periods I am checking, it is useless. It would > only work if I altered all my charge dates to their actual > post date. That I DO NOT WANT. > > The box in the lower right corner of the reconcile f

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user > wrote: > > On 6/18/19 3:41 AM, Maf. King wrote: >> Things these days are generally much more instant, although sometimes not as >> instant as we might like. >> HTH, >> Maf > > Not really. > > By law, folks that take credit crds

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 4:20 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:04 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: On 6/18/19 3:43 AM, Maf. King wrote: Yep, the Balance button will insert a transaction into your account to make it balance with the statement finishing total. It's effectively a

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:04 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user > wrote: > > On 6/18/19 3:43 AM, Maf. King wrote: >> Yep, the Balance button will insert a transaction into your account to make >> it >> balance with the statement finishing total. It's effectively a short cut >> when >> you can'

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 3:41 AM, Maf. King wrote: Things these days are generally much more instant, although sometimes not as instant as we might like. HTH, Maf Not really. By law, folks that take credit crds in the USA are not allowed to charge you until the item ships or gets processed. Sometimes th

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 3:43 AM, Maf. King wrote: Yep, the Balance button will insert a transaction into your account to make it balance with the statement finishing total. It's effectively a short cut when you can't be bothered to keep careful track of all your txns. Maf. Here is the rub. The date I ma

Re: [GNC] extra column?

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
>> On Jun 18, 2019, at 4:19 AM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> On my credit card registries, is it possible to add an extra >> date column where I can put Post Date? >> >> >> Many thanks, >> -T On 6/18/19 5:24 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: No, you can’t just add stuff

Re: [GNC] CSV to QIF for Citibank

2019-06-18 Thread Michael DeBusk
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 9:38 PM David Carlson wrote: > If you have been having issues with notes in OFX imports, there were a > couple of bugs in that area that were just fixed for release 3.6. They > should already be in the Windows nightly builds. Try OFX again when you > have the updates. >

Re: [GNC] New computer to set up gnucash and migrate from old.

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Bruce, Please trim your replies when replying to a digest. The easiest way to do that for most mail clients is to first highlight the relevant part you are replying to, then hit the `Reply-all` or `Reply-list` buttons. The new mail will only quote what you have highlighted rather than 14 feet w

Re: [GNC] New computer to set up gnucash and migrate from old.

2019-06-18 Thread Randy Rosebrock via gnucash-user
Thanks for additional insight. On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 9:15 AM Mike or Penny Novack < stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote: > On 6/17/2019 7:29 PM, Randy Rosebrock wrote: > > I'll check it out. You would thing gnucash would build in a > > backup/export/import function. > > You are slightly misunders

Re: [GNC] New computer to set up gnucash and migrate from old.

2019-06-18 Thread Maf. King
On Tuesday, 18 June 2019 00:29:24 BST Randy Rosebrock wrote: > I'll check it out. You would thing gnucash would build in a > backup/export/import function. > Why? Does MS Word or Keynote or any other application have an extensive backup function (beyond autosave, of course) How have you moved

Re: [GNC] New computer to set up gnucash and migrate from old.

2019-06-18 Thread Mike or Penny Novack
On 6/17/2019 7:29 PM, Randy Rosebrock wrote: I'll check it out. You would thing gnucash would build in a backup/export/import function. You are slightly misunderstanding the problems because you are thinking of gnucash as being used to keep only one set of books. Also, gnucash keeps a list of

Re: [GNC] New computer to set up gnucash and migrate from old.

2019-06-18 Thread Bruce Irving via gnucash-user
Randy:"You would thing gnucash would build in a backup/export/import function."It does have a backup function:  every time it saves the data, it renames the old one with the date and time. They are still in the data folder.  If I remember correctly, GC saves these for 30 days, unless you changed

Re: [GNC] Switch to Account that a Transfer is from by Keybo

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Sorry, I posted too soon. Perhaps this would be two RFE bugs: 1. Document the context menu 2. Document the mnemonics and how to make them visible. (no need to even reference Gtk+ at all) Regards, Adrien > On Jun 18, 2019, at 7:29 AM, Adrien Monteleone > wrote: > > No, I mean that the contex

Re: [GNC] Switch to Account that a Transfer is from by Keybo

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
No, I mean that the context menu doesn’t appear to be documented at all. I don’t see any reference to it in the Help manual. The mnemonics are there in the UI, just not visible in 3.x until you press the activator key. (this fact *is* documented on the Wiki, but the menu itself is still not, so

Re: [GNC] extra column?

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
No, you can’t just add stuff to the UI, but you can turn on Double Line mode in the View menu which will reveal a transaction-wide ‘Notes’ field and put it there. Regards, Adrien > On Jun 18, 2019, at 4:19 AM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user > wrote: > > Hi All, > > On my credit card registri

Re: [GNC] Switch to Account that a Transfer is from by Keybo

2019-06-18 Thread David Carlson
David T, I disagree. If we did not mention how Windows or Mac affects the use of GnuCash, users would be completely lost. We can point out that GTK causes this or that artifact, so the user knows why he has to do something differently than in some other programs David Carlson. On Tue, Jun 18,

Re: [GNC] Switch to Account that a Transfer is from by Keyboard

2019-06-18 Thread Stan Brown
I've mostly been lurking rather than posting, but I've lost count of the number of things that used to be better in 2.x.x and now don't work as well in 3.x.x because of GTK. It's proof that "latest and greatest" can be an oxymoron. -- Regards, Stan Brown Tompkins County, New York, USA http://Brow

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Maf. King
Yep, the Balance button will insert a transaction into your account to make it balance with the statement finishing total. It's effectively a short cut when you can't be bothered to keep careful track of all your txns. Maf. On Tuesday, 18 June 2019 10:43:19 BST ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Maf. King
On Tuesday, 18 June 2019 10:45:17 BST ToddAndMargo wrote: > On 6/18/19 1:54 AM, Maf. King wrote: > > Finish will be greyed out until you get the "difference" to 0 > > > 7 is what it suppose to ber! > No it isn't. the £7 is either on you bank statement or is not (yet, because the bank have

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 1:54 AM, Maf. King wrote: Finish will be greyed out until you get the "difference" to 0 7 is what it suppose to ber! It is not checked off! ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preference

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 1:53 AM, David T. wrote: Michael, I believe that ToddAndMargo clicked the "Reconcile" button in the reconcile window, which is designed to create a balancing entry when your reconciling doesn't work. ToddAndMargo, Michael's suggestion to click the "Finish" button mig

[GNC] extra column?

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
Hi All, On my credit card registries, is it possible to add an extra date column where I can put Post Date? Many thanks, -T ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://list

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Maf. King
On Tuesday, 18 June 2019 08:11:45 BST ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: > On 6/17/19 11:47 PM, Michael Hendry wrote: > > When you have checked the relevant entries in the reconciliation window > > (as in your third screenshot), you’ll get a difference of $0.00. > > > > Now click on the “Finish”

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Michael, I believe that ToddAndMargo clicked the "Reconcile" button in the reconcile window, which is designed to create a balancing entry when your reconciling doesn't work.  ToddAndMargo, Michael's suggestion to click the "Finish" button might be more successful for you.  David T. On Tu

Re: [GNC] Switch to Account that a Transfer is from by Keybo

2019-06-18 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Adrien, Because this is specifically a situation that resulted from GTK, I would be reluctant to add language to the Gnucash documentation.  David T.  On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 8:29, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Yes, the Gtk+ version which changed this was implemented for 3.0. Regards, Adrie

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Michael Hendry
> On 18 Jun 2019, at 06:37, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user > wrote: > > Hi All, > I am confused to the point of tears. > I created a dummy account: "bozo" and "Bozo Expense". > Initial balance was $100.00 (over payment). Then I added some charges > and another payment. > I "pretend"

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/17/19 11:47 PM, Michael Hendry wrote: When you have checked the relevant entries in the reconciliation window (as in your third screenshot), you’ll get a difference of $0.00. Now click on the “Finish” button, and the process will be complete, with the transactions you have checked now mar

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/17/19 11:47 PM, Michael Hendry wrote: Gnucash is calculating the ending balance “believing" that the $7 charge would have hit your credit card, but your imaginary credit card statement would have omitted it, leaving an ending balance of $135. You need to enter $135 in the Reconcile Inform