Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-14 Thread D. via gnucash-user
Adrien, John Ralls provided advice that, because the OP had not used Gnucash much in version 2.x, he might, in fact, be able to jump directly from that to 4.4. That advice, as I noted, is non-standard, but may work-- and if it does, then there's no real problem. David T. Original

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-14 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I think you misunderstood. No, you should not 'update' your GnuCash installation *with your existing GnuCash file* straight from 2.x to 4.x! You have two paths: 1. retain your existing GnuCash file and go through the multi-step update process outlined in this thread and in the wiki. Then

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-13 Thread David Cousens
Brad It really depends upon the situation. you originally said you had an old file from an early attempt to use GnuCash and there had been little importing of data since that time and that that data was expendable. In this case John's single step process is appropriate. You can then back

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-13 Thread D. via gnucash-user
Brad, My version is the safest, "This is the way that everyone says it should be done" version. However, John is one of the core developers of the app, and if he says you can probably cut corners and just jump ahead, then that might be worth a try. Hey, if it doesn't work, you can always go

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-13 Thread brad
I'm a bit confused as to the best update method.   These seem to be differing methods, incrementally updating GC (3 steps), or jump to 4.4 (1 step) and let it do the data update in one step.    Is the JR one step method reliable for a big file with many accounts? On 1/8/21 10:15 AM, John

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-09 Thread bluzman
I just went through this process (2.6.21 > 3.0 > 3.10 > 4.4) on my Windows 8.1 PC. I chose to do it now because, hey, it's a new year...time to catch up. It went very smoothly...no hiccups whatsoever. FWIW, the biggest change I've noticed so far is that generating a balance sheet went from being

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-08 Thread D. via gnucash-user
David, Thanks for clarifying. I agree with all your points--especially about the fine work of the developers! David T. Original Message From: David Carlson Sent: Fri Jan 08 18:03:03 EST 2021 To: "D." Cc: Tfastle , David Reiser via gnucash-user Subject: Re: [GNC] Best

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-08 Thread Christopher Lam
A last note: during upgrades, check the trace file for possibly important logs. These are overwritten, hence upgrade messages can disappear easily. https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile On Sat, 9 Jan 2021, 9:58 am Tfastle via gnucash-user, < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > Well, I must

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-08 Thread Tfastle via gnucash-user
Well, I must chime in. You all are way over my head now but the thread seems lively and is entertaining. I think what I will do is save my file in a safe place and try the update and see what happens and, along the way, learn a little. Then, maybe I'll understand a bit more of what is being

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-08 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 1/8/21 6:03 PM, David Carlson wrote: > Now Linux technology has started to move away from PPA protocols toward > Flatpack or possibly other alternatives that I still feel need more > development before I am ready to jump from GnuCash 3.8 to 4.4 or beyond. > Reading the tales of woe here and on

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-08 Thread David Carlson
First, I just know enough about computers to be dangerous. So I am ultra conservative about going in over my head trying to stay near the (b)leading edge of technology. Like you I have been using GnuCash since very early in the 2.something days sometime after it was ported to Windows. That

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-08 Thread D. via gnucash-user
David, I don't understand; could you explain what exactly is taking such a long time to upgrade? I've been using Gnucash for, like, 15 years, and the upgrade process (across multiple major versions [I believe I started around 2.0.5 or so], using multiple installation methods [anyone remember

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-08 Thread David Carlson
Years ago Quicken allowed exporting data (in their version of QIF format) for a limited time interval and/or for one, several or all accounts, but I do not know if that is still true. They also used to allow simply exporting your account tree with no transaction data. Good luck! On Fri, Jan 8,

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-08 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I too highly recommend this step not be skipped! (if so inclined) Regards, Adrien On 1/8/21 11:28 AM, D. via gnucash-user wrote: 8) Relax, don't worry, have a home brew.  (This last directive might not apply to the current set of activities) ___

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-08 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Read over John's reply again. If you want to 'start fresh' then just install 4.4 and then start importing. I'm not sure if Quicken allows you to export a date range of data. If so, then following John's advice, export the very first month of data, then import it into GnuCash. Then export the

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-08 Thread Tfastle via gnucash-user
Well, I would first like to say thanks for the very thoughtful and informative replies! I should have mentioned in my first post that I am not an overly "inner works of a computer" savvy person and even less so with the inner workings of software some of that was a bit over my head. When I first

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-08 Thread David Carlson
Tfastle, I am currently at release 3.8, half way through the process of migrating from 2.6.xx to 4.4. I can tell you that the migration is very time consuming and it looks like it is going to be a challenge to take the step from 3.8 to 4.4 in a Linux OS. If you are contemplating running GnuCash

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-08 Thread D. via gnucash-user
Welcome back! Let me start with the last point first: in my experience, Gnucash's developer team is deeply committed to compatibility, and works to ensure that upgrades preserve ALL previous data. Furthermore, the default data storage is XML, which is text that is human readable, and fully

Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-08 Thread John Ralls
> On Jan 8, 2021, at 8:53 AM, Tfastle via gnucash-user > wrote: > > A few years back I was going to switch from using Quicken to GnuCash. I > downloaded and spent a fair amount of time reading about GnuCash and getting > my Quicken Account imported. For me, it was a bit of a learning curve

[GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-08 Thread Tfastle via gnucash-user
A few years back I was going to switch from using Quicken to GnuCash. I downloaded and spent a fair amount of time reading about GnuCash and getting my Quicken Account imported. For me, it was a bit of a learning curve and a lack of time thwarted my effort. I now hope to make the move for good.