[GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-09 Thread bengtxyz
Would like to revive this old thread since the request made by the OP is still valid for us Swedish users (and maybe German users according to one post in the thread?). I wonder if there has been some development along making transactions "persistent" or read-only/locked/un-changeable? In short t

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-09 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 8/9/20 5:25 AM, bengt...@gmail.com wrote: > Would like to revive this old thread since the request made by the OP is > still valid for us Swedish users (and maybe German users according to one > post in the thread?). I wonder if there has been some development along > making transactions "persis

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-09 Thread Christopher Lam
This is not a problem that can be solved in an open-source software. Perhaps you're looking for a datafile archiving and notarization service? On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 at 09:27, wrote: > Would like to revive this old thread since the request made by the OP is > still valid for us Swedish users (and ma

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-09 Thread John Ralls
> On Aug 9, 2020, at 2:25 AM, bengt...@gmail.com wrote: > > Would like to revive this old thread since the request made by the OP is > still valid for us Swedish users (and maybe German users according to one > post in the thread?). I wonder if there has been some development along > making tra

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-09 Thread Bruce Irving via gnucash-user
On 8/9/20 5:25 AM, bengt...@gmail.com wrote: > Would like to revive this old thread since the request made by the OP is > still valid for us Swedish users (and maybe German users according to one > post in the thread?). I wonder if there has been some development along > making transactions "persis

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-09 Thread Stan Brown
On 2020-08-09 10:39, Bruce Irving via gnucash-user wrote: > The idea of freezing a transaction at some point is an idea that would be > appreciated, even by a user like me.  Just before I retired,  There have been > times that I accidentally changed a transaction that I didn't intend to. I > fo

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-09 Thread bengtxyz
> -Original Message- > From: John Ralls > Sent: den 9 augusti 2020 18:02 > To: bengt...@gmail.com > Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation > > > > On Aug 9, 2020, at 2:25 AM, bengt...@gmail.com wrote: >

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-09 Thread John Ralls
> On Aug 9, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Stan Brown wrote: > > > On 2020-08-09 10:39, Bruce Irving via gnucash-user wrote: >> The idea of freezing a transaction at some point is an idea that would be >> appreciated, even by a user like me. Just before I retired, There have >> been times that I accid

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-09 Thread Stan Brown
On 2020-08-09 11:58, John Ralls wrote: >> On Aug 9, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Stan Brown wrote: >> You probably know this, but just on the off chance that you don't: >> >> In the File » Properties dialog, there is a setting "Day threshold for >> read-only transactions." If change the default 0 in that

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-09 Thread John Ralls
> On Aug 9, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Stan Brown wrote: > > > On 2020-08-09 11:58, John Ralls wrote: > >>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Stan Brown wrote: >>> You probably know this, but just on the off chance that you don't: >>> >>> In the File » Properties dialog, there is a setting "Day threshold

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-10 Thread Bruce Irving via gnucash-user
From: Stan Brown To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation Message-ID: <6a54ecab-ea17-d69d-9bc1-8f78db1fe...@fastmail.fm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On 2020-08-09 10:39, Bruce Irving via gnucash-user wrote: > The idea of f

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-10 Thread Stan Brown
On 2020-08-09 20:24, John Ralls wrote: > I think my proposal--using relative dates like beginning of the current > month--fits your use case perfectly and would save you the annoyance of > having to update the specified date every month and the risk of possibly > forgetting. Not so much. I ne

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-10 Thread doncram
Both fixed date and relative date locking are needed, let me chime in to say, with reasons that may not have been considered so far. Relative (same as number of days?) should be a mild locking, like just a notice that can be over-ruled ("The transaction is more than 60 days in the past, are you su

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-11 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
The fixed date locking should be stronger, ideally requiring a password. The previous year would be locked only when the Treasurer or other authorized person is really finally signing off on all reporting, after performing all necessary closing entries to recognize accruals (see my comment in

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-11 Thread elvis
If you want a fixed date burn a cd or use other ways of verifying the files like md5sum All of this fixed date stuff is just security theatre if you can access the source and pretty much the same even if you can't. One of the attractions of gnucash is you have access to all your accounts,

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-11 Thread Fred Bone
On 11 August 2020 at 20:14, elvis said: > If you want a fixed date burn a cd or use other ways of verifying the > files like md5sum > > > All of this fixed date stuff is just security theatre if you can access > the source and pretty much the same even if you can't. There seems to be a fair amoun

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-11 Thread Stan Brown
On 2020-08-11 06:41, Michael or Penny Novack wrote: > > The point is less that the books can't be modified than whether any post > final approval modification could be easily detected. Yes and no. That is _one_ motivation for making a lock. But many of us are using GC as individuals, not as co

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-11 Thread doncram
Yeah, this is a sore point which has been running for years, and indeed should be written up nicely somehow. Basically it needs to be said that accountant type persons need to understand that there is an anti-accounting vibe in the GnuCash community, which is objectively an insulting, arrogant, un

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-11 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
Don, Don, Don: On 2020-08-11 12:36, doncram wrote: … there is an anti-accounting vibe in the GnuCash community, which is objectively an insulting, arrogant, unyielding strain.… the computer programmers who have developed GnuCash and who support it… the computer programmer types, or at least the

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-12 Thread Liz Dodd
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 20:10:44 -0700 Jim DeLaHunt wrote: > First of all, if you think that the vibe in the GnuCash community is > "insulting, arrogant, unyielding"; if you think that the GnuCash > developers are "being real jerks", then you haven't seen nearly > enough of the Internet and of free

Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-13 Thread doncram
Okay, noted that my post with self-labelled rant was outside bounds accepted by this community. Just enclosing in "begin rant", "end rant" doesn't change that. What I did wrong included, at least, that I characterized two groups and that I cast aspersions and applied negative adjectives, personal