Re: STEED - Usable end-to-end encryption

2011-10-24 Thread Matthias-Christian Ott
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 01:46:02AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On 10/20/2011 10:25 PM, Matthias-Christian Ott wrote: But who are the providers? Except for people who work in computer science, physics or similar fields I don't know people who run their own mail servers or are part of a

Re: STEED - Usable end-to-end encryption

2011-10-24 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 06:55:47PM +0100, MFPA wrote: If you are trying to get people to think about privacy, maybe suggesting Diaspora as an alternative to Facebook is a direction to consider... I would suggest that, if you are trying to get people to think about privacy, about the only thing

Re: STEED - Usable end-to-end encryption

2011-10-24 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 10/24/11 11:15 AM, Mark H. Wood wrote: No one can desire salvation until he believes that he is in jeopardy. Although hellfire-and-damnation preachers are a popular cultural idea, they're really quite rare: most preachers go more for the John 10:10 angle [*]. They've found through centuries

Re: STEED - Usable end-to-end encryption

2011-10-24 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:24:40AM -0400, Robert J. Hansen wrote: On 10/24/11 11:15 AM, Mark H. Wood wrote: No one can desire salvation until he believes that he is in jeopardy. Although hellfire-and-damnation preachers are a popular cultural idea, they're really quite rare: most preachers

Re: STEED - Usable end-to-end encryption

2011-10-24 Thread dan
With respect to your question: what we offer is privacy, but most people do not understand privacy, do not care about privacy, and would not care about privacy even if they understood it. During graduate school the politically-active members of the Computer Science department were up in